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Re: Actually, a lot of weapons look the same
Posted By: Leviathan <levihoffmeier@gmail.com>Date: 4/23/12 7:31 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Actually, a lot of weapons look the same (TDSpiral)


: Exactly!

: I almost kind of forgot that vehicles have remained mostly the same
: throughout the games, with exceptions like the Reach Banshee, the Wraith
: from Halo: CE, the Warthog in H4, and the Mongoose in Reach. And any
: differentiation of the vehicles can be easily explained by the fact that
: they're different models.

Yep. And I'm fine with new models of vehicles in Halo 4 - enough time has passed, the war is over, new technology is at their fingertips to study... I would totally expect the UNSC to have a whole new breed of advanced vehicles.

: I'd be willing to make the argument that just because it feels really
: similar, doesn't mean that it hasn't changed dramatically. Like the Elites
: through the Halo games. They all look pretty different, but I still get
: the same feeling from them.

: But I know what you're talking about.

: I was talking about the Anniversary Halo, yes. Maybe its appearance will
: become non-canon, who knows.

Yeah, I mean I personally have a lot of issues with the art direction - especially coming from a perspective of "preservation" of the original. But thinking objectively - its canonicity is a troubling issue - we've never had the problem of two games covering the same event. Canon problems were mostly an issue between the 'tiers': games, books, comics, etc.

Now Anniversary and CE are on the same tier. They also both have two big strengths. Anniversary is the latest entry, which seems important to some, while CE is the original, and was actually created by Halo's creators.

To me, time means nothing, and the fact that the original author had nothing to do with a re-envisioning like it, Anniversary shouldn't be the primary source, instead a secodary "what if?". Put it down at the bottom in the screenshots section of a wiki article, not in the top, main content, if that makes sense.

... But on the other side, with Anniversary being fresh in people's minds, 343 may reference back to Anniversary designs, and CE's versions may start to disappear from the wikis... I'll be very sad if that happens, just because it's like they're erasing my youth.

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Halo 4 images released2900d4u 4/20/12 7:23 a.m.
     All I have say is: WOW! *NM*BWOLoneWolf 4/20/12 7:36 a.m.
           So...Nikko B201 4/20/12 8:02 a.m.
                 Re: So...Revenant1988 4/20/12 8:03 a.m.
                 Re: So...pete_the_duck 4/20/12 8:12 a.m.
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                 Re: So...Joony Joon 4/20/12 11:45 a.m.
                 More concerned about the fact....Sl'askia 4/20/12 12:14 p.m.
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                                                     Actually, a lot of weapons look the sameTDSpiral 4/23/12 10:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: Actually, a lot of weapons look the sameLeviathan 4/23/12 11:12 a.m.
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                                                                                   Re: Actually, a lot of weapons look the sameLeviathan 4/23/12 7:10 p.m.
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                                                           Re: Actually, a lot of weapons look the sameGravemind 4/24/12 2:30 a.m.
                       Re: More concerned about the fact....tucsonbatman 4/20/12 1:07 p.m.
                       Re: More concerned about the fact....Hawaiian Pig 4/20/12 1:12 p.m.
                             Re: More concerned about the fact....Cody Miller 4/20/12 2:00 p.m.
                                   You guys... :-) *NM*scarab 4/20/12 4:01 p.m.
                       Re: More concerned about the fact....Dervish 4/20/12 1:29 p.m.
                             Re: More concerned about the fact....Sl'askia 4/20/12 1:49 p.m.
                             District 9scarab 4/21/12 6:07 a.m.
                       I don't see the issueThe BS Police 4/20/12 2:05 p.m.
                             Re: I don't see the issuetucsonbatman 4/20/12 2:52 p.m.
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                                         Still doesn't explain the Brutes cosmetic changesThe BS Police 4/20/12 3:40 p.m.
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                                               The Halo 2 brute looks by far the best. *NM*bryan newman 4/20/12 6:03 p.m.
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                                         Wall of text alertscarab 4/21/12 5:35 p.m.
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                                   Re: More concerned about the fact....Sl'askia 4/21/12 12:06 p.m.
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           What the heck is this thing?sharkface217 4/23/12 3:39 a.m.
                 Re: What the heck is this thing?Quirel 4/23/12 3:49 a.m.
                 *cough*Atlas*cough* *NMNikko B201 4/23/12 4:16 a.m.
                       Re: *cough*Atlas*cough* *NMBeckx 4/23/12 10:17 a.m.
                             Re: *cough*Atlas*cough* *NMSonofMacPhisto 4/23/12 4:37 p.m.
                                   Re: *cough*Atlas*cough* *NMBeckx 4/23/12 5:06 p.m.
                 Re: What the heck is this thing?MacGyver10 4/23/12 8:50 a.m.
     Loving the HUD *NM*mattroe 4/20/12 8:53 a.m.
           HUD details...bluerunner 4/20/12 9:51 a.m.
                 DMRdogcom 4/20/12 10:10 a.m.
                 No reticles?OldNick 4/20/12 11:16 a.m.
                       Re: No reticles?bluerunner 4/20/12 11:40 a.m.
                 I would say it's Forerunner VisionChris101b 4/20/12 11:35 a.m.
                       I think you might be right...Hyokin 4/20/12 12:30 p.m.
                             Re: I think you might be right...Chris101b 4/20/12 4:45 p.m.
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                 ^^With you with that^^ *NM*BWOLoneWolf 4/20/12 10:13 a.m.
                       Re: The Jackals are pure canon too *img*Hedgemony 4/20/12 10:24 a.m.
                             Re: The Jackals are pure canon too *img*Tex 4/20/12 10:26 a.m.
                                   Re: Damn, you'd rock that too:) *NM*Hedgemony 4/20/12 10:27 a.m.
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                       I have to agreenomis78 4/20/12 10:37 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedArchedThunder 4/20/12 11:44 a.m.
                       hyperbole is lulz *IMG*SonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 12:35 p.m.
                             But they at least looked like arthropods then....Sl'askia 4/20/12 12:41 p.m.
                                   Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.SonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 12:48 p.m.
                                         Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.uberfoop 4/20/12 12:48 p.m.
                                               Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.SonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 12:52 p.m.
                                                     I'm with you, SoMP. *NM*Louis Wu 4/20/12 2:57 p.m.
                                                     Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.serpx 4/20/12 3:12 p.m.
                                   Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.General Vagueness 4/23/12 12:13 a.m.
                                         Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/23/12 5:40 a.m.
                                               Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.ArchedThunder 4/23/12 10:23 a.m.
                                                     Re: But they at least looked like arthropods then.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/23/12 1:40 p.m.
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                                         Guess you forgot about this page then eh?Sl'askia 4/23/12 12:09 p.m.
                                               lolLouis Wu 4/23/12 12:23 p.m.
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                                                                       Yeah that's what I meantSl'askia 4/24/12 12:10 p.m.
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           Elites Make me sadfaceMetalingus627 4/20/12 1:16 p.m.
                 Agreed so much *NM*Hawaiian Pig 4/20/12 1:22 p.m.
                 AyeAnton1792 4/20/12 2:15 p.m.
                 Re: Elites Make me sadfacePhoenix_9286 4/20/12 2:20 p.m.
                       Re: Elites Make me sadfaceLeviathan 4/20/12 3:18 p.m.
                             Re: Elites Make me sadfacetucsonbatman 4/20/12 5:36 p.m.
                 ^ IMO 1 of the best criticisms of the elite update *NM*thebruce0 4/20/12 3:23 p.m.
     Grunts look scary and mean and I dont like it :(Tex 4/20/12 10:19 a.m.
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           Re: Grunts look scary and mean and I dont like itkanbo 4/20/12 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: Grunts look scary and mean and I dont like itDeafhawk36 4/20/12 11:11 a.m.
                 While I'm having nightmares of thisTDSpiral 4/20/12 11:14 a.m.
                       Re: While I'm having nightmares of thisJDQuackers 4/20/12 12:04 p.m.
                 And it begins....padraig08 4/20/12 11:21 a.m.
                 Re: Grunts look scary and mean and I dont like itTex 4/20/12 11:27 a.m.
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           Re: Grunts look scary and mean and I dont like itBeckx 4/20/12 11:31 a.m.
     We got Wretches! :U *NM*munky-058 4/20/12 10:49 a.m.
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                       Re: Halo 4 images releasedGeneral Vagueness 4/23/12 12:25 a.m.
     Re: Halo 4 images releasedKalamari 4/20/12 11:23 a.m.
     The new grunt looks oddly familiar....bluerunner 4/20/12 11:52 a.m.
           Re: The new grunt looks oddly familiar....Hedgemony 4/20/12 11:59 a.m.
                 Re: The new grunt looks oddly familiar....Pkmnrulz240 4/20/12 3:47 p.m.
           Re: The new grunt looks oddly familiar....JDQuackers 4/20/12 12:06 p.m.
     =(Phoenix_9286 4/20/12 12:12 p.m.
           Re: =(SonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 12:37 p.m.
                 Re: =(Phoenix_9286 4/20/12 12:51 p.m.
                       Re: =(SonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 12:54 p.m.
     Re: Halo 4 images releasedQuirel 4/20/12 12:14 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 images releasedJDQuackers 4/20/12 12:28 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedMid7night 4/20/12 1:42 p.m.
     Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.Leviathan 4/20/12 2:23 p.m.
           Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.mnemesis 4/20/12 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.Leviathan 4/20/12 3:09 p.m.
                       Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.bluerunner 4/20/12 3:16 p.m.
                             Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.Quirel 4/20/12 3:17 p.m.
                             You don't understand Sangheilli mating ritualsLeviathan 4/20/12 3:20 p.m.
                                   Re: You don't understand Sangheilli mating ritualsbluerunner 4/20/12 3:41 p.m.
           Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.padraig08 4/20/12 4:17 p.m.
                 Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.Leviathan 4/20/12 4:51 p.m.
                       Re: Love the Spec Ops Elite, grunt's got an issue.padraig08 4/20/12 8:38 p.m.
     Re: Halo 4 images releasedCaneCutter 4/20/12 4:50 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 images releasedPhoenix_9286 4/20/12 5:19 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedCaneCutter 4/20/12 5:28 p.m.
                       Oops! You said right shoulder :| *NM*CaneCutter 4/20/12 5:39 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedtucsonbatman 4/20/12 5:32 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedSonofMacPhisto 4/20/12 7:44 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 4 images releasedPhoenix_9286 4/20/12 8:18 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 images released343winks. 4/20/12 9:37 p.m.
                 Forerunner integration.Leviathan 4/20/12 9:56 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 images releasedMetalingus627 4/21/12 4:44 a.m.
                       Re: Halo 4 images released343winks. 4/21/12 8:41 a.m.
                             Re: Halo 4 images releasedMetalingus627 4/21/12 10:51 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo 4 images released343winks. 4/22/12 12:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo 4 images releasedMetalingus627 4/22/12 12:58 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 images releasedStephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/21/12 1:10 p.m.
     Some of my Likes and Dislikes.The Lionheart 4/22/12 3:38 a.m.
     Re: Halo 4 images releasedStealthyMangos 4/23/12 2:24 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 images releasedGrimBrother One 4/23/12 3:15 p.m.
                 prophet/grunt/elitenillapuddin 4/23/12 4:41 p.m.



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