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Re: The Obvious Solution
Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com>Date: 8/31/10 4:09 p.m.

In Response To: The Obvious Solution (Slith)


: And it doesn't require any patching, even.

: Simply set vehicles to be indestructible.

: I've got to agree though, this is overall a poor design decision. It was
: better when vehicle health was tied to player health ala Halo 2 and 3
: [Halo 2 especially, nailed vehicles.]

I actually agree with giving vehicles their own non-regenerating hit points separate from the player's. The Halo 2/3 system gave vehicles the potential to absorb a potentially unlimited amount of damage, so long as the driver (or any passengers) kept his health above zero. That's why if you don't have any heavy weapons, a good Banshee pilot or Warthog crew can run roughshod over your team. Unloading your ARs won't matter much if the enemy can just drive/fly away, let his shields come back, and he's good as new.

While the absence of a damage meter for vehicles in Reach is undesirable (since you never know exactly how much HP your vehicle has left), so would going back to the broken Halo 2/3 system that made vehicles overpowered and required equally overpowered weapons like the missle pod and laser to counter them.

: Speaking of imbalanced, here's an image of what happens on boneyard if
: Covenant lose three weapon drops in a row during invasion slayer:
: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6673/reach712549full.jpg

: Late game invasion slayer was horribly slanted towards Spartans thanks to the
: grenade launcher and the sucktastic wraith. [Hey I got a wraith! Oh no,
: I'm EMP'd by the GL, now I can't aim at anything or even move. Oh no I've
: died to four GL hits : (] I'm interested in seeing if this has been
: addressed in any way, or if Wraiths are going to continue being mostly
: useless.

Agreed. Who decided to put objectives in my Slayer? I hate how you have to capture territories to get any kind of weapon or vehicle drop. Doesn't help that they only utilized half of Boneyard during the beta for Invasion Slayer. I would've much preferred Invasion Slayer be a normal Spartans vs. Elites BTB Slayer with regular weapon and vehicle spawns, and maybe still have the phases that introduce new loadouts after a certain amount of time or points.

I also share your hopes that they have fixed the Wraith. While the Scorpion turret can still move and fire when it gets stunned by an EMP, the Wraith becomes completely helpless, the plasma mortar withdrawing back into the tank like a turtle's head.

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G4 reach PreviewMinime637 8/28/10 11:19 a.m.
     Thanks! *NM*Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 8/28/10 11:23 a.m.
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     Faith = RenewedMetalingus627 8/28/10 12:17 p.m.
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           Uh, what's with the vehicles?NsU Soldier 8/28/10 8:24 p.m.
                 Re: Uh, what's with the vehicles?hyokin 8/28/10 8:28 p.m.
                       Re: Uh, what's with the vehicles?NsU Soldier 8/28/10 8:38 p.m.
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                                                                       Re: Wrong! You fail.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/30/10 6:14 a.m.
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                                                                             And yet...NsU Soldier 8/30/10 10:09 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: And yet...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/30/10 11:11 a.m.
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                                                                             That's not true.rolandk73 8/31/10 9:22 a.m.
                                                           Re: Wrong! You fail.Avateur 8/29/10 9:32 p.m.
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