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Re: Wrong! You fail.
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 8/29/10 9:29 p.m.

In Response To: Wrong! You fail. (Gravemind)


: You do realize that the damage system in Reach is totally different from the
: one used in Halo 2 & 3? In Halo 2 & 3, vehicle "health"
: was tied into the player's health. The only way to destroy an in-use
: vehicle was the reduce the health of the occupant(s) to zero (with one
: exception: shooting the fuel tank on the H2 Ghost). This means that
: vehicles in Halo 2 & 3 can take a potentially unlimited amount of
: damage so long as the occupant(s) keep their health above zero. For
: example, a player flying a Banshee could make a strafing run, soak up a
: lot of damage — which gets transferred to his shields or health — and then
: flies off, allowing his shields to come back, and it's like he never took
: any damage at all. While shooting a "damaged" vehicle transfers
: more damage to the occupant(s) than when shooting a "fresh"
: vehicle, the fact remains that to destroy an in-use vehicle in Halo 2
: & 3, you must kill the driver and/or any passengers. In other
: words, we did have a damage meter of sorts for vehicles in Halo 2 & 3.
: It was our shield bar.

: In contrast, vehicles in Reach have their own hit points separate from the
: player's. Furthermore, their HP don't regenerate on their own, so any
: damage done is permanent. If a vehicle has, say, 150 HP of
: "health," once 150 HP worth of damage has been inflicted on it,
: it blows up, plain and simple. This is the system used in Halo 1
: (applicable only to Covie vehicles in Campaign, though). This is why a
: damage meter is necessary, as without one we now have absolutely no idea
: how many HP our ride has left. Can we still afford to take some punishment
: or are we only a single AR round from death? We don't know.

: In short, the damage system in Reach is different from Halo 2 & 3's, ergo
: your argument fails.

To play devil's advocate, if this were a real war you wouldn't necessarily know how damaged a vehicle was when you hopped in to drive it. In a battle zone, it would still be an unknown risk.

For all the requests for realism in FPS games, people still seem to be OK with that fact that you have more than one 'life' but that there should be a meter on a vehicle telling you if it's OK to drive or fly for a while. :P

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     Thanks! *NM*Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 8/28/10 11:23 a.m.
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     Faith = RenewedMetalingus627 8/28/10 12:17 p.m.
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           Uh, what's with the vehicles?NsU Soldier 8/28/10 8:24 p.m.
                 Re: Uh, what's with the vehicles?hyokin 8/28/10 8:28 p.m.
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                                                           Re: Wrong! You fail.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/29/10 9:29 p.m.
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                                                                             And yet...NsU Soldier 8/30/10 10:09 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: And yet...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/30/10 11:11 a.m.
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