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Re: Minigun or not minigun?
Posted By: dilbert	Date: 12/8/00 10:58 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Minigun or not minigun? (wod`asini) > Ok you say ammunition will be smaller and lighter, but more > powerfull?? how is this possible, if the round is lighter it has > less penitrating power! lets take a look at super fast particles in space, and what they can do to a space vechile. one B-B size rock, weighting in at just 1 mg, can go straight though the hull of any craft we have out there. So what do you have to say that MAN or any other future cotact species will not develope some sort of propellant to use on bullets that will greatly increase their speed. This could account for the arguement we (meaning the community, not you) over flash size and length. I fire a BB that is, lets say 6 times faster than your average current day .50 cal gun, into anything. I think I'm gonna have some results that are very favorable for my cause. > Now you could very well develop a > lighter and more powerfull explosive to fire the round but that > wouldn't decrease the weight significantly. again, see my above text. > Now the only way of > making the bullet more powerful is adding an explosive, which is > allready done on a small scale albeit illegaly, and this > decreases the weight significantly but makes the round more > prone to missing, are you listening to yourself, if production for US Army SF is small scale, then you are right, but it has no effect what so ever on accuracy. Maybe i am just reading you wrong and you meant that it makes it makes it easier for your target to miss its legs/arms/left-half-of-head, but a projectile is a projectile, and accuracy is based on recoil, your barrel, and your aim, given a standard shape. > If your bullets are very lite then a small > breeze could put them off their target. if you have a tank shell, the breeze can put it off its target, that's why you account for these factors when firing. BUT with any rapid fire gun, you don't really worry about it, especially with a mini-gun, just point and shoot, and flood the area with a stream of lead. > Also I do not want an > incredibly light minigun unless the weapon has no recoil, the > weight absorbs the recoil greatly(Unless you have solved the > recoil problem). wrong! > Now think for a minute, a minigun is very cubersome the way it > is designed here. The trigger is on a grip type thing on top and > to the rear of the weapon kinda like a weed wacker. would these be the technical terms, *grip thing* *weed wacker* triggers are only where the designer puts them. i could get a trigger put on stock or a rifle so when i leaned my head to sight a target, it would fire. or to look at it in the same lime light, I could put the same tigger on my gear shifter. go look for some links to the vulcan cannons. the brits and germans have used these guns from as far as 200 feet away to take down aircraft. > If you got > yourself a light machine gun designed similar to a large rifle > you can raise it over your head and spray bullets around, you > can lie down put it to your shoulder and it becomes incredibly > powerfull since you are accurate and you have the high rate of > fire! seems like this is the only thing you got right > The only advantage a minigun has over the light machine gun is > rate of fire. but why fire 6,000+ rounds of ammo per minute > instead of 750-1000? Again guerrila warfare, you're gunna wana > conserve ammo. And the light machinegun does that extremely well > considering it has an above average but not incredibly fast > firing rate, and it is more accurate. The light machine gun is > verstile and thats why every major army uses them. i'm tired of making holes in you argurment, but what the heck. firing 6000 rounds a minute is great. there is nothing like seeing a jeep, or other target falling to pieces in seconds. also, when you are on a large vessel, seeing a cruise missle struck down my a wave of lead makes you feel much safer. IF i am on a recon assignment and i come a across an open field with 1000 troops in movement. I would rather have a gun to put them all down in a matter of seconds, rather then a just a few and run. > A minigun is ment to be mounted on a vehical! crap, again, check out vulcan cannons, ask any body from Nam about them. > thats why no one > has tried to make a minigun out of light composites to equipe > regular soldiers with. it is my understanding that every single firearms being used in all branches of the US Military are always being examined and 'upgrade' for lack of a better word. > Even the navy seals don't carry miniguns, how many seals do you know, i'll make sure to ask next time we're having a beer. > they carry m60s and 800rounds of ammo, they carry any damned thing they please, remember, we're talking about seals. not wanna be JROTC in middle school. > so I think they could > handle a minigun. We allready have very light materials that > weapons are being made of, why isn't anyone making a super light > minigun? Again because they are putting miniguns on helicopters > and jets. yawn > PS: They only person I have seen who is really accurate firing > from the hip is my friends dad(but with years of practice!) how old are you, have you been to SF training, what about rangers, I don't know a single ranger that can't cut you into four pieces with a M-16 from the hip, sounds like your friends dad has seen a few movies, and been to a texas gun show. tell him I say *HI:)* <snip> -dilbert

Message Index

Minigun or not minigun?	wod`asini	12/7/00 7:18 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Bassard	12/7/00 7:21 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	wod`asini	12/7/00 7:33 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Cunbelin The Insane	12/7/00 8:28 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	$erial-ki!!A	12/8/00 12:10 p.m.
Damn Right! (n/t)	wod`asini	12/8/00 12:41 p.m.
THIS IS A GAME!	Cunbelin the Insane	12/8/00 7:31 p.m.
Re: THIS IS A GAME!	Tunnel_Rat	12/10/00 1:24 a.m.
Re: THIS IS A GAME!	Cunbelin the Insane	12/10/00 3:14 a.m.
Re: THIS IS A GAME!	Tunnel_Rat	12/10/00 12:56 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Ape Man	12/7/00 10:02 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	MercilessKK	12/7/00 10:07 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	wod`asini	12/7/00 10:50 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	mattD	12/7/00 11:30 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	wod`asini	12/7/00 11:37 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	Cunbelin The Evil	12/8/00 1:35 a.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	RabidAngel	12/8/00 10:06 a.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	wod`asini	12/8/00 12:18 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	Ape Man	12/8/00 7:00 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun	Ape Man	12/8/00 7:02 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Nathan	12/8/00 2:50 a.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	dilbert	12/8/00 10:58 a.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	mattD	12/8/00 1:23 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	dilbert	12/8/00 2:02 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	mattD	12/8/00 2:14 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	dilbert	12/8/00 2:42 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	spark	12/8/00 2:13 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	dilbert	12/8/00 3:05 p.m.
You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	Tunnel_Rat	12/9/00 2:38 p.m.
Re: You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	razz	12/9/00 4:43 p.m.
Re: You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	$erial-ki!!A	12/11/00 10:01 a.m.
Re: You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	dilbert	12/11/00 2:36 p.m.
Re: You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	spark	12/11/00 2:46 p.m.
Re: You don't know much about navy seals Dilbert	dilbert	12/11/00 3:49 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Bongo	12/7/00 11:14 p.m.
Re: Minigun or not minigun?	Maxaminus	12/7/00 10:16 p.m.
So ... WHERE ARE THE GUNS?	Nathan	12/8/00 2:41 a.m.
Re: So ... WHERE ARE THE GUNS?	Forensic	12/8/00 10:03 a.m.