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Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics Engine
Posted By: Nick <NickHBO@comcast.net>Date: 1/25/04 11:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics Engine (Dark Bastion)

: I hope that's not true. I mean, yeah, Havok is cool and all, but after Deus
: Ex 2 and Max Payne 2, it's novelty has worn off. Now it just seems stupid
: that a dead body flops on the ground like it's 2 pounds of nothing, or
: everything has the same non-mass attached to it. One of the things that I
: loved about Halo was how the physics - be it as minute as grenade tossing
: or as major as a rocket impact on an airborne warthog - weren't and
: couldn't seen in any other game; that's what made it awesome. I just hope
: that Bungie uses the Havok engine as a source, and vastly overhauls it for
: the final product.

Yes, I made all of that up and even created a website to support my fake claims.

Havok is applied however the developer chooses to apply it. Just because the devs of Max Payne 2 and Deus Ex 2 decided to use the default setup (or so I'm assuming by your comments) for the games doesn't mean that is the only way the engine can be applied. Bungie can make a body 1,000 pounds or 200 pounds and make the engine react accordingly.

As I stated in another reply, the Havok engine is fully customizable so Bungie can change the physics however they may wish. Middleware is sometimes seen as cookie-cutter code but I think it's really up to the developer to break that image - I'm confident that Bungie can make better use of the Havok engine than the default setup distributed by Havok and give it the good 'ol Halo feel.

Havok is all about customizing the engine to your needs, it does everything but lets you specify how it does it. Vehicle physics? Check. Character physics? Check. Environment physics (think X03 video and those weird radio-like things)? Check. Everything is covered and most importantly Havok is cross platform so it's easier to port it over to the PC later on.

-Nick


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Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/25/04 9:24 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineHaloNater 1/25/04 9:28 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineSlimby 1/25/04 9:35 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineHaloNater 1/25/04 9:43 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineAlexander Valient 1/26/04 9:32 a.m.
           Havok 2 Physics Engine - MoviesNeurotic 1/25/04 9:38 p.m.
                 Re: Havok 2 Physics Engine - MoviesMantis819 1/25/04 9:50 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineRip-Saw 1/25/04 10:22 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/25/04 11:23 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineDark Bastion 1/25/04 10:27 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/25/04 11:36 p.m.
     Oh my.... thats cool.....Mr.Mongoose 1/25/04 10:53 p.m.
           Re: Oh my.... thats cool.....Nick 1/25/04 11:46 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineDan Chosich 1/25/04 10:58 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineLt Devon 1/25/04 11:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineSpartan_-X- 1/25/04 11:07 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineDylan 1/26/04 8:18 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/26/04 12:20 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineCount Zero 1/26/04 12:31 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/26/04 12:56 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineWalshicus 1/26/04 10:22 a.m.
                       Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineNick 1/26/04 3:01 p.m.
           Not true.Blitzkrieg 1/26/04 12:07 p.m.
                 Re: Not true.Nick 1/26/04 3:05 p.m.
           not to mentionoddworld18 1/26/04 3:18 p.m.
                 Re: not to mentionBOLL 1/26/04 3:26 p.m.
                 Nop, it uses HavokNick 1/26/04 4:11 p.m.
                       Re: Nop, it uses Havokopie301 1/26/04 5:27 p.m.
                             Re: Nop, it uses HavokNick 1/26/04 5:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Nop, it uses HavokAztec 1/26/04 6:33 p.m.
                                         Re: Nop, it uses HavokNick 1/26/04 6:36 p.m.
                                         Re: Nop, it uses HavokKOPD 1/26/04 6:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Nop, it uses HavokNick 1/26/04 7:30 p.m.
                                   End of the Evaluationopie301 1/26/04 6:37 p.m.
                                         Well said. *NM*XLNC 1/26/04 7:07 p.m.
                                         Re: End of the EvaluationNick 1/26/04 7:24 p.m.
                                               Re: End of the EvaluationAztec 1/26/04 7:41 p.m.
                                               Bygones and such...opie301 1/26/04 8:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bygones and such...Nick 1/26/04 11:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bygones and such...KOPD 1/26/04 11:58 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Bygones and such...Nick 1/27/04 12:14 a.m.
                                                                       Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.KOPD 1/27/04 12:18 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.Nick 1/27/04 12:35 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.Aztec 1/27/04 12:40 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.KOPD 1/27/04 12:44 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.Aztec 1/27/04 12:54 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.KOPD 1/27/04 12:55 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Kind of a jerk, aren't ya.Stefander 1/27/04 1:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: Bygones and such...Aztec 1/27/04 12:02 a.m.
                                               Re: End of the EvaluationCount Zero 1/26/04 9:53 p.m.
                                                     Re: End of the EvaluationNick 1/26/04 10:23 p.m.
                                                           Re: End of the EvaluationWado SG 1/27/04 12:32 a.m.
                                                                 Re: End of the EvaluationNick 1/27/04 1:12 a.m.
                                                                       Re: End of the EvaluationCount Zero 1/27/04 3:01 a.m.
                                                                             Re: End of the EvaluationNick 1/27/04 4:02 a.m.
                                                                                   Enough.Louis Wu 1/27/04 5:56 a.m.
                                                                                         A final retort.Nick 1/27/04 7:02 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: A final retort.Louis Wu 1/27/04 7:26 a.m.
                                                                                                     This is exactly what I'm talking about.Nick 1/27/04 1:51 p.m.
                                                                                                           For the record...KOPD 1/27/04 2:06 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: This is exactly what I'm talking about.Count Zero 1/27/04 9:15 p.m.
                       Lies!Lt Devon 1/26/04 7:12 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Uses Havok 2 Physics EngineSledgefare 1/26/04 11:19 a.m.



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