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Re: Draft 1 Wireframe
Posted By: Forrest of B.orgDate: 2/27/12 8:39 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Draft 1 Wireframe (Johannes Gunnar)

: So far, every attempt I've seen which tries translating the Marathon
: interface elements into web design has usually ended very badly. Simply
: given the fact that the marathon interface elements (sadly) aren't that
: big on stuff like readability, typography and other similar ideas that are
: needed when it comes to design on the web. I would say it's in theory
: possible to make a good Marathon themed web design but it would A. be
: extremely challenging and B. would require us to change a whole lot of
: things regarding the original elements like margins, typography, colors
: and such.

Which is why I told Diogenes that I doubt using the graphics from the Aleph One theme would be a good idea. I'm aiming at something drawing stylistically on the game, without trying to replicate it entirely. Better typography and margins and things like that are all good points to refine it. The color scheme is I think the defining point though; what makes it look Marathony is being red and green and white on black with metallic elements around it.

: If i am not mistaken, White/negative space would be considered a good thing.
: (or at least a good balance between negative and positive space) A good
: example was the website redesign for Eve Online done couple of months ago.
: The old website followed the good old 3+ column layout where negative
: space was sacrificed on the altar for the sake of having all the content
: on the front page. At first it worked out nicely but throughout the years
: it had started getting way too cluttered as CCP incrementally added
: content elements to the design.

I can sympathize with the pain of executive meddling wanting to put absolutely every element at the very top of the page; I've had to deal with people demanding that. I am not trying to do that. I have a header at the top and navigation on top (in about 200px of space), and then the main body (the news), with two asides for relevant information that someone just landing here might need to know.

: http://www.eveonline.com/

I can't say that that's really a well-designed site at all. It is huge and fixed-width (requires horizontal scrolling at 1024x768), and is very graphically heavy with annoying marquees and everything. I'm surprised you would say anything good about it with your usual emphasis on minimalism.

: With this said, we need to decide what the primary focus of the website is
: going to be. Should it sell the game/community and favor getting new
: players or should it favor the old players?

I still think it can do both unobtrusively. If it weren't for the Links being kept on the front page as Hamish previously dictated (but seems to have maybe rescinded now?), it would be just banner/nav/news, with a brief aside for "Hey what is this where am I?"

I would be very happy to get rid of that right sidebar, mind you, if Hamish is OK with it; that was not a part of my original intention. Neither was the left one for that matter, both were to be hidden away behind top-level links; but Hamish said no to the links being hidden, and I thought (and you seem to think even more vehemently) that having a What Is/Get Marathon box on the front page would be more welcoming to newbies than having it hidden behind a link.

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           Re: marathon.bungie.orgMrM12LRV 2/18/12 7:30 a.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 2/18/12 8:54 a.m.
     Re: marathon.bungie.orgTycho 2/18/12 10:12 a.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 2/18/12 10:17 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.org *LINK*Tycho 2/18/12 10:32 a.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgJohannes Gunnar 2/20/12 12:00 a.m.
     Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 2/22/12 8:18 p.m.
           Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgGodot 2/23/12 12:02 a.m.
           Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgJohannes Gunnar 2/23/12 4:04 a.m.
                 Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 2/23/12 6:29 p.m.
           Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 2/23/12 4:21 a.m.
                 Big ideas for mar.b.org breakdownForrest of B.org 2/23/12 6:37 p.m.
                       Idea 1: OrganizationForrest of B.org 2/23/12 6:50 p.m.
                             Re: Idea 1: OrganizationJohannes Gunnar 2/23/12 11:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Idea 1: OrganizationForrest of B.org 2/23/12 11:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Idea 1: Organizationtreellama 2/24/12 3:53 a.m.
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                                   Re: Draft 1 WireframeJohannes Gunnar 2/26/12 5:46 a.m.
                                         Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/26/12 11:58 a.m.
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                                                                             Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/27/12 12:02 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: Draft 1 Wireframe *LINK*W'rkncacnter 2/27/12 7:45 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 8:41 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 2:27 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/28/12 11:55 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/29/12 3:35 a.m.
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                                                                             Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 8:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: Draft 1 Wireframetreellama 2/27/12 4:24 a.m.
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                                                     Re: Draft 1 WireframeRyokoTK 2/27/12 2:29 p.m.
                                                           Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 8:48 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 Wireframetreellama 2/28/12 4:31 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 1 WireframeJohannes Gunnar 2/28/12 6:44 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/28/12 9:22 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Draft 1 Wireframetreellama 2/28/12 9:40 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/28/12 10:54 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Draft 1 WireframeW'rkncacnter 2/28/12 11:20 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Draft 1 WireframeDiogenes 2/28/12 12:06 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 12:19 p.m.
                                                                                               Balance of issuesForrest of B.org 2/28/12 11:56 p.m.
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                                                                                               Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 6:38 p.m.
                                                                                               On ProcessForrest of B.org 2/28/12 11:56 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: On Processtreellama 2/29/12 4:22 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 WireframeRyokoTK 2/28/12 4:50 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 Wireframe *LINK*Diogenes 2/28/12 5:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 6:57 a.m.
                                                     Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 9:40 p.m.
                                                           Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 9:41 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 WireframeGodot 2/28/12 1:25 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 2:33 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 1 WireframeJohannes Gunnar 2/28/12 7:03 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Draft 1 WireframeGodot 2/28/12 9:03 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 1 WireframeTycho 2/28/12 3:53 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Draft 1 WireframeJohannes Gunnar 2/28/12 10:44 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Draft 1 WireframeGodot 2/28/12 11:28 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/28/12 9:57 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Draft 1 WireframeJohannes Gunnar 2/28/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/28/12 11:55 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 WireframeW'rkncacnter 2/28/12 9:46 a.m.
                                                                 Draft 4 - better variable columnsForrest of B.org 2/29/12 12:40 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsRyokoTK 2/29/12 4:41 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsRyokoTK 2/29/12 7:28 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsW'rkncacnter 2/29/12 8:02 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsForrest of B.org 2/29/12 8:57 p.m.
                                                                                         check out mediaqueries if you haven't yet.Johannes Gunnar 2/29/12 10:14 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: check out mediaqueries if you haven't yet.Forrest of B.org 2/29/12 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: check out mediaqueries if you haven't yet.Johannes Gunnar 3/1/12 2:08 a.m.
                                                                                                           ...alsoJohannes Gunnar 3/1/12 2:15 a.m.
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                                                                                                                       Re: ...alsopoena.dare 3/2/12 3:39 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsRyokoTK 3/1/12 6:03 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Draft 4 - better variable columns *NM* *LINK*Johannes Gunnar 3/1/12 9:30 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsRyokoTK 3/1/12 10:44 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsForrest of B.org 3/1/12 10:02 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsRyokoTK 3/2/12 5:27 a.m.
                                                                                                           Draft 5Forrest of B.org 3/3/12 11:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Draft 5ukimalefu 3/4/12 3:01 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsDiogenes 2/29/12 5:08 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsForrest of B.org 2/29/12 11:29 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Draft 4 - better variable columnsDiogenes 2/29/12 11:38 a.m.
                                                           Re: Draft 1 WireframeBob-B-Q 2/28/12 10:18 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Draft 1 Wireframepoena.dare 2/28/12 11:12 a.m.
                                                                       And they never paid me for it, either! *NM*Bob-B-Q 2/28/12 12:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Draft 1 Wireframetreellama 2/26/12 4:04 p.m.
                                         Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/26/12 5:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Draft 1 Wireframetreellama 2/27/12 5:30 a.m.
                                                     Re: Draft 1 WireframeForrest of B.org 2/27/12 9:13 a.m.
                       Idea 2: IntegrationForrest of B.org 2/23/12 7:12 p.m.
                             Re: Idea 2: Integrationtreellama 2/24/12 4:03 a.m.
                             Re: Idea 2: IntegrationW'rkncacnter 3/31/12 4:15 p.m.
                                   Re: Idea 2: IntegrationGodot 3/31/12 10:35 p.m.
                       Idea 3: UnificationForrest of B.org 2/23/12 7:27 p.m.
                             Re: Idea 3: UnificationW'rkncacnter 2/23/12 8:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Idea 3: UnificationForrest of B.org 2/23/12 11:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Idea 3: Unificationtreellama 2/24/12 4:13 a.m.
                                         Re: Idea 3: UnificationTycho 2/25/12 6:10 a.m.
                                               Re: Idea 3: UnificationForrest of B.org 2/25/12 11:01 a.m.
                             Re: Idea 3: Unificationtreellama 2/24/12 4:07 a.m.
                                   Re: Idea 3: UnificationForrest of B.org 2/24/12 10:29 a.m.
                                         Re: Idea 3: Unificationtreellama 2/24/12 10:43 a.m.
           traxus overhaulChristTrekker 2/23/12 6:28 a.m.
                 Re: traxus overhaulForrest of B.org 2/23/12 6:31 p.m.
           Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgBob-B-Q 2/23/12 6:37 a.m.
                 Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgmchief111 2/23/12 7:01 a.m.
                       Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgukimalefu 2/23/12 8:36 a.m.
                             Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgpoena.dare 2/23/12 8:57 a.m.
           Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgpoena.dare 2/23/12 6:41 a.m.
                 Re: Big ideas for marathon.bungie.orgChristTrekker 2/23/12 7:50 a.m.
     Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/3/12 6:56 p.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgRyokoTK 3/3/12 7:23 p.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/3/12 8:47 p.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.org *LINK*W'rkncacnter 3/3/12 9:44 p.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgukimalefu 3/4/12 3:05 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/3/12 11:19 p.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgJohannes Gunnar 3/3/12 11:47 p.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/3/12 11:18 p.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgW'rkncacnter 3/3/12 11:25 p.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/3/12 11:58 p.m.
                             Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 7:54 a.m.
                                   Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/4/12 8:25 a.m.
                                         Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 8:45 a.m.
                                         Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/4/12 8:46 a.m.
                                               Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/4/12 9:17 a.m.
                                                     Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 9:27 a.m.
                                                           Re: marathon.bungie.orgRyokoTK 3/4/12 10:16 a.m.
                                                                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgW'rkncacnter 3/4/12 10:48 a.m.
                                                           Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 6:20 p.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 4:33 a.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/4/12 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgRyokoTK 3/4/12 4:30 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgJohannes Gunnar 3/4/12 4:51 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/4/12 8:31 a.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgtreellama 3/5/12 5:47 p.m.
                             Re: marathon.bungie.orgW'rkncacnter 3/5/12 5:58 p.m.
                             Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/5/12 8:28 p.m.
                                   Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/5/12 10:20 p.m.
                             Re: marathon.bungie.orgGodot 3/5/12 11:20 p.m.
                             Re: marathon.bungie.orgukimalefu 3/6/12 12:55 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/4/12 11:57 p.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgukimalefu 3/5/12 2:12 a.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgRyokoTK 3/5/12 6:09 p.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgukimalefu 3/4/12 2:56 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgBob-B-Q 3/4/12 6:38 a.m.
           Re: marathon.bungie.orgTycho 3/4/12 7:06 a.m.
                 Re: marathon.bungie.orgRyokoTK 3/4/12 7:35 a.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgHopper 3/4/12 10:09 a.m.
                       Re: marathon.bungie.orgForrest of B.org 3/4/12 11:34 a.m.
     This might be a little redundant...Diogenes 3/5/12 12:04 p.m.
           Re: This might be a little redundant...poena.dare 3/5/12 2:35 p.m.
                 Re: This might be a little redundant...Diogenes 3/5/12 2:40 p.m.
                       Re: This might be a little redundant...poena.dare 3/5/12 5:31 p.m.
           Re: This might be a little redundant...Forrest of B.org 3/5/12 8:14 p.m.
                 Re: This might be a little redundant...Forrest of B.org 3/5/12 8:30 p.m.
                       Re: This might be a little redundant...RyokoTK 3/5/12 9:21 p.m.
                 Re: This might be a little redundant...RyokoTK 3/5/12 9:17 p.m.
                       Re: This might be a little redundant...Forrest of B.org 3/5/12 9:45 p.m.
                             Re: This might be a little redundant...Diogenes 3/6/12 5:04 a.m.
           Re: This might be a little redundant...Diogenes 3/6/12 5:17 a.m.

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