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|Re: Yes, it is.|
|Posted By: Narcogen <email@example.com>||Date: 10/16/08 7:53 a.m.|
In Response To: Re: Yes, it is. (Bry)
: Which is exactly why I like it when we get proper official sources.
: Wow, that's a great big chunk you quoted there and I don't really know which
I meant the last bit-- the identity of the company that designed and manufactured pods.
Is knowing that really important? What do you gain by knowing it? What do you gain by moving the source of such information, whatever it might be, into canon if it is currently a questionable source?
My point is that the Haloverse is not, necessarily, enriched simply by increasing the quantity of information we have about it. (It can be, but it isn't *necessarily*.)
: Still... what is Halo about..? I am intriqued of what you might mean there.
I mean that Halo is a narrative work, and as such, has a subject. It is about something. It is not merely a collection of facts and details. The details serve the subject, not the other way around. Some details are more relevant and useful for a deeper understanding of the entire work, and some are less so.
: Can we not have a desire to learn more about certain aspects that are hinted
Certainly you can, but there's a delineation that I think can be made between information and trivia.
: Let me clarify to a degree what I am talking about.
Those have direct relevance. Halo is an FPS. You are shooting things. That information was background related directly to how you interact with the the world-- by shooting at it. While some of the information may not directly impact that experience-- it may not change how you play, and it may not be directly represented in how the in-game assets behave, it does in some way enrich the experience in a way that is relevant to what you're doing, even if it is on a fairly surface level.
The pod reference I think is much less relevant-- they are rarely used or seen in the game, they are not interactive at all, and the company and characters involved in their design and construction have no role in the story. It's trivia.
: And personally, I find some of that interesting and I'd certainly say its
: Perhaps some of my topics of interest in Halo are not what Halo 'is all
To you, yes. However many other discussions revolve around the story, its significance, and how past events in the fictional universe may be used to understand current events in that universe and perhaps even predict future ones. Trivia are generally not helpful in this area, and polluting canon solely for the purpose of dragging in additional sources of trivia can make it more difficult to actually understand Halo's story and its significant elements.
: Anyways, I guess it just isn't as simple for me to look at Halo references as
: I increasingly looking to the novels as more like a secondary canon source. I
No argument there.
: Then this little post cropped up... actually, I should have reminded us of
: Joe really changed a lot of how I look at the Haloverse with that simple
My attitude towards the levels of canon are taken DIRECTLY from that post of Joe's.
: I began questioning all kinds of things in the novels or older games
I think you just dragged in a completely different meaning of "approved" than what Staten intended there. Bungie supplied backstory materials for the creation of ILB, and "approved" of its creation. If memory serves, they did not "approve" the final product-- they did not review the completed audio drama after its creation and before its publication-- they were in Halo 2 crunch at the time. The rough outline of the story then, yes. How things were portrayed, its style, the audio performances-- I don't believe Bungie had review of those.
: But its waaay way way down on the list of canonical influence.
It is of limited use in any case, and is likely only to mislead you about something significant, or reveal something insignificant.
|H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Bryan Ojeda||10/12/08 5:16 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Vincent||10/12/08 5:24 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Dave Bergland||10/12/08 5:26 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||XMixMasterX||10/12/08 5:43 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Bryan Ojeda||10/12/08 5:47 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||The More Deluded||10/12/08 5:55 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Bry||10/12/08 6:19 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Zerowind117||10/13/08 3:33 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||elpolloguapo||10/13/08 12:23 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||343winks.||10/12/08 5:54 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||The More Deluded||10/12/08 5:57 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Bryan Ojeda||10/12/08 5:58 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||XMixMasterX||10/12/08 6:00 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||free||10/12/08 6:08 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||343winks.||10/12/08 6:34 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||The More Deluded||10/12/08 7:27 p.m.|
|erm.. ie differences in accuracy, damage etc. *NM*||The More Deluded||10/12/08 7:27 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Rosco-128||10/12/08 8:49 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Bryan Ojeda||10/12/08 11:10 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Cthulhu117||10/12/08 11:12 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||343winks.||10/13/08 9:10 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||vlad3163||10/13/08 9:59 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||343winks.||10/13/08 10:35 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Cthulhu117||10/13/08 11:22 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Rosco-128||10/13/08 11:29 a.m.|
|It's not. *NM*||UNSC_Trooper||10/13/08 3:33 p.m.|
|Yes, it is.||Cthulhu117||10/13/08 7:18 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||UNSC_Trooper||10/14/08 1:18 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||My7hos||10/14/08 1:37 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||UNSC_Trooper||10/14/08 1:45 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Louis Wu||10/14/08 1:47 p.m.|
|My take.||My7hos||10/14/08 2:06 p.m.|
|Re: My take.||Stephen L. (SoundEffect)||10/14/08 2:31 p.m.|
|Re: My take.||My7hos||10/14/08 6:49 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||UNSC_Trooper||10/14/08 2:09 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Louis Wu||10/14/08 2:47 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||UNSC_Trooper||10/14/08 3:26 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Louis Wu||10/14/08 4:08 p.m.|
|You know if I was a Bungie employee...||Leviathan||10/14/08 11:17 p.m.|
|Re: You know if I was a Bungie employee...||Bryan Ojeda||10/15/08 2:59 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/15/08 5:15 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/15/08 5:06 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||free||10/15/08 6:30 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/15/08 9:20 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Bry||10/15/08 8:55 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/15/08 9:25 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Bry||10/15/08 10:04 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/15/08 12:09 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Bry||10/15/08 3:50 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||My7hos||10/15/08 4:00 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/16/08 7:53 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Bry||10/16/08 8:54 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Sep7imus [subnova]||10/15/08 11:35 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Narcogen||10/16/08 8:18 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Sep7imus [subnova]||10/16/08 11:33 a.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||free||10/16/08 8:55 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||Bry||10/16/08 10:07 p.m.|
|Re: Yes, it is.||free||10/16/08 11:12 p.m.|
|I wish I could quit you||Jillybean||10/15/08 12:43 p.m.|
|Re: I wish I could quit you||Narcogen||10/15/08 3:08 p.m.|
|Re: I wish I could quit you||My7hos||10/15/08 3:52 p.m.|
|Leave the Cortana Letters out of this.||Louis Wu||10/15/08 4:12 p.m.|
|You missed my meaning...||My7hos||10/15/08 4:17 p.m.|
|Sgt Johnson||Miguel Chavez||10/15/08 5:36 p.m.|
|Re: Sgt Johnson||Sep7imus [subnova]||10/15/08 8:40 p.m.|
|ditto *NM*||Jillybean||10/15/08 11:07 p.m.|
|Re: Sgt Johnson||Stephen L. (SoundEffect)||10/15/08 11:02 p.m.|
|Re: Sgt Johnson||Bry||10/16/08 7:36 a.m.|
|Re: Sgt Johnson||Narcogen||10/16/08 8:30 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||UNSC_Trooper||10/13/08 3:38 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Vincent||10/13/08 5:07 p.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Rosco-128||10/13/08 11:26 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||Devil Mingy||10/13/08 11:28 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||vlad3163||10/14/08 1:32 a.m.|
|Re: H3:R "Dual Wielding?"||elpolloguapo||10/14/08 2:08 p.m.|
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