Re: Muller's Mission?
Posted By: xcaliburDate: 6/18/15 10:44 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Muller's Mission? (Lion O Cyborg)

: It can fit, but it always seems to me that he is both sleepwalking and unsure
: of the threat we pose. The W'rkncacnter may not have known about human
: technology outside of the Yucatan tribes and whoever else was turned into
: undead skeletons -they're not actual flesh and blood zombies despite the
: name-, (Nazis and tomb raiders not withstanding, technology wise) so this
: specimen might not have been aware that we could chloroform it with
: uranium just then.

: The "Demon" I think is a DREAM avatar of the W'rk itself(still no
: italics so pardon my caps), brought into smaller size and a bit less power
: than its true, awakened self.

: His capsule might have been on the uppermost floor all along containing his
: dream self watching over his tomb like a genie in a bottle and trying to
: lure anyone into his lair to help wake him up, like the Gravemind Mumm-Ra
: in the captured Jjaro dreadnaught which crashed in the Soleanna desert in
: Egypt.

: He couldn't control his other dreams, only summon them, even then sometimes
: by accident hence why the others died except Javier because after being
: removed from his capsule, the W'rk snuffed him out because he couldn't be
: trusted, but Muller could despite he died a while back, but now he could
: try and wake himself up.

: However, we made it down far enough that he saw we posed some danger, but he
: couldn't concentrate enough to know that it was serious. we exhausted his
: dream self's limited power and left him in more traditional REM before
: planting the bomb.

: The gemstone would be to help those that helped him out escape, had they the
: strength to make it that far. Except that the dream W'rk dropped it anyway
: in his sleep after shooting him after the last wave.

: It does sound completely ridicules why he'd hand us the fire escape key after
: whuppin' his ass-tral projection due to simple drowsy clumsiness but then
: again; it's Bungie, and it's Lovecraftian Horror, practically any theory
: is plausible even if it's just speculation, like the stair lifts puzzle in
: CSFSC being a training course or the Marathon's lava streams being used
: for central heating and power with the engines keeping it hot.

: That's why we have the story page to try and help make sense of it all.

This makes alot of sense. I don't usually get persuaded to change my viewpoint, but this time I have. The problems I pointed out are resolved by the idea that the demon is a smaller, limited avatar of the Dreaming God. It certainly doesn't act like the other dreams or servants. No other enemy can summon other enemies (at most, the purple beasts multiply but that's it)

if Muller had a rapport with the Dreaming God, this would explain many things, like his extensive knowledge of the pyramid, and his singleminded focus on his mission to the extent of alienating his squad. However, Muller didn't pass the test, so he wasn't able to unleash the gods power.

Maybe this stuff would've been fleshed out a bit more if the game hadn't been rushed in development.

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Muller's Mission?Nick hoad 4/17/05 7:08 a.m.
     Re: Muller's Mission?Muller 4/17/05 7:53 a.m.
     Re: Muller's Mission?Bob-B-Q 4/17/05 3:09 p.m.
           Re: Muller's Mission?Nick hoad 4/18/05 2:48 a.m.
                 Re: Muller's Mission?Nick hoad 4/18/05 3:00 a.m.
                       Good point...Bob-B-Q 4/18/05 3:35 a.m.
                             Re: Good point... *NM*Nick hoad 4/18/05 10:16 a.m.
                             Re: Good point...Nick hoad 4/18/05 10:30 a.m.
                                   Re: Good point...Bob-B-Q 4/18/05 12:01 p.m.
                                         Re: Good point...Nick hoad 4/18/05 12:15 p.m.
                                   Re: Good point...Sir Blastalot 7/9/05 7:50 a.m.
                             Re: Good point...Ender 4/18/05 1:17 p.m.
                             Re: Good point...Sir Blastalot 7/9/05 7:48 a.m.
     Re: Muller's Mission?Vid Boi 4/19/05 11:49 p.m.
           Re: Muller's Mission?Nick hoad 4/20/05 1:02 a.m.
                 Re: Muller's Mission?blake37 4/20/05 12:11 p.m.
                       Re: Muller's Mission?Vid Boi 4/21/05 1:56 a.m.
                             Re: Muller's Mission?Aohl 4/21/05 10:38 a.m.
                                   Re: Muller's Mission?Forrest of B.org 4/21/05 10:57 a.m.
                                         Re: Muller's Mission?Vid Boi 4/22/05 3:06 a.m.
                                               Re: Muller's Mission?Anger 4/24/05 9:50 a.m.
                                                     Re: Muller's Mission?Vid Boi 4/24/05 1:45 p.m.
     Re: Muller's Mission?Aaron Gaponoff 5/1/05 8:24 a.m.
           Re: Muller's Mission?Mister Chief 5/2/05 7:17 a.m.
     Re: Muller's Mission?xcalibur 6/11/15 5:57 a.m.
           Re: Muller's Mission?xcalibur 6/11/15 6:39 a.m.
                 Re: Muller's Mission?Lion O Cyborg 6/11/15 9:42 a.m.
                       Re: Muller's Mission?xcalibur 6/15/15 11:29 p.m.
                             Re: Muller's Mission?Lion O Cyborg 6/16/15 12:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Muller's Mission?xcalibur 6/18/15 10:44 a.m.
                                         Re: Muller's Mission?Lion O Cyborg 6/18/15 12:53 p.m.
                                               Re: Muller's Mission?VikingBoyBilly 6/21/15 3:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: Muller's Mission?xcalibur 6/21/15 10:35 p.m.
                                                           Re: Muller's Mission?VikingBoyBilly 6/22/15 5:52 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Muller's Mission?Bob-B-Q 6/22/15 8:15 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Muller's Mission?Martin 6/22/15 12:26 p.m.
                                                                             Megaton facepalm *NM*Bob-B-Q 6/23/15 6:29 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Muller's Mission?Lion O Cyborg 6/23/15 1:23 a.m.
                                                           Re: Muller's Mission?VikingBoyBilly 6/22/15 2:22 p.m.
           Re: Muller's Mission?VikingBoyBilly 6/11/15 7:58 a.m.

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