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Re: Some thoughts.
Posted By: SonGoharotto <SonGoharotto@gmail.com>Date: 1/14/13 12:42 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Some thoughts. (General Vagueness)


: Plasma grenades explode a certain amount of time after they stick to a target
: or come to a rest. Frag grenades post-Halo 1 explode a certain amount of
: time after they touch something, and post-Halo 2, or maybe post-Halo 3,
: that's generally only if it bounces in a downward angle or ends up going
: in a downward angle, and then it explodes as soon as it's been going down
: for a certain amount of time-- there are exceptions because you can toss a
: frag grenade into a grav lift and it'll explode before it even gets as
: high as it can go. I think it's safe to say Spartans (and others) do
: something before or as they throw grenades that arms them, or maybe the
: act of throwing them arms them, because only after that will a plasma
: grenade (or a spike grenade for that matter) stick to things, only after
: that will a frag grenade leave a trail, only after that do grenades show
: up on the little nearby grenade indicator, and after that they're easier
: to blow up-- blowing up unarmed grenades varies across the Halo series,
: but I'm pretty sure in every game you can blow up an armed grenade by
: shooting it.

I always assumed the grenade is primed 'off-camera' so using one is simply a matter of throwing it. Kind of like when you switch weapons. Master Chief takes out his second weapon, but you never see an animation of him putting away the first one.

: If there actually is a wall or something next to your target. If not it'll be
: a complete miss regardless, which doesn't help when a Ghost is barreling
: towards me.

Yes, that was a hypothetical situation. Grenade cooking gives you an option that may or may not apply in various situations.

If a Ghost was barreling right towards you, anything less than a stick wouldn't help. But a plasma grenade blowing up immediately might save you, whereas a plasma grenade blowing up two seconds after you've already been run over, not so much.

: It's not about how big it looks , it's about how big it is -- it's blocking
: the action.

I'm running out of polite(ish) ways to say that you're getting too focused on niggling little details. Seriously, this is just brainstorming.

: fair enough; I'd also suggest getting rid of the little sprinting Spartan
: icon, it doesn't help

I was thinking it would instead be a little jetpacking Spartan when appropriate, if the idea of the gauge changing colors between Spring vs Jetpack wasn't obvious enough.

: I just realized I forgot to ask: were you thinking that the jetpack would
: still be something you pick up?

As opposed to being built-in, yes. Aside from an early level sequence that serves as training for the advanced jetpack mechanics, my intent is that using or not using a Jetpack would be completely optional. There are obvious advantages to just being able to fly over things, but there should be equally compelling advantages for sticking with Sprint/Evade, depending on what you'll be facing at any given time. This is something that should be more apparent once I get into the new weapons and enemy types.

I think I said this in another post, but I don't want to fall into the habit of giving the player exactly the thing that he's going to need in the next encounter. I want to give the player options and an open sandbox. Whether a player picks up a Jetpack should be based on wanting to use it, not because an upcoming sequence demands it.

That also means I don't have to come up with all sorts of contrived reasons why Master Chief is forced to drop the Jetpack in the next sequence.

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Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/11/13 12:32 a.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)Chewbaccawakka 1/11/13 2:25 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/11/13 12:08 p.m.
     Goddamn, this sucked me in. Good Write Up! *NM*zoojoo 1/11/13 5:19 p.m.
           1 thing thoughzoojoo 1/11/13 9:06 p.m.
                 Re: 1 thing thoughuberfoop 1/11/13 9:18 p.m.
                       Re: 1 thing thoughzoojoo 1/12/13 9:29 a.m.
                             Re: 1 thing thoughSonGoharotto 1/12/13 11:00 a.m.
                                   Re: 1 thing thoughRC Master 1/12/13 11:48 a.m.
                                         Re: 1 thing thoughSonGoharotto 1/12/13 12:36 p.m.
     Wow, good stuff.NsU Soldier 1/11/13 6:27 p.m.
           Re: Wow, good stuff.SonGoharotto 1/11/13 7:47 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, good stuff.Chewbaccawakka 1/11/13 7:54 p.m.
                       Re: Wow, good stuff.SonGoharotto 1/11/13 8:06 p.m.
                             An additional thoughtSonGoharotto 1/12/13 12:53 a.m.
                                   Re: An additional thoughtChewbaccawakka 1/12/13 1:18 a.m.
     It sucks.GrimBrother One 1/11/13 7:02 p.m.
           I was just grabbing random names *NM*SonGoharotto 1/11/13 7:48 p.m.
                 Oh suuuuuuure. ;-) *NM*GrimBrother One 1/11/13 7:56 p.m.
                       Hey...Louis Wu 1/12/13 9:10 a.m.
                             In all fairness...SonGoharotto 1/12/13 11:01 a.m.
                                   lolLouis Wu 1/12/13 11:29 a.m.
           You're just mad I took your flag. *NM*General Vagueness 1/12/13 8:47 p.m.
     I am intrigued. *NM*Leisandir 1/11/13 7:38 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)Nighend 1/11/13 9:04 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/12/13 12:46 a.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)scarab 1/12/13 7:32 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/12/13 11:10 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)General Vagueness 1/12/13 10:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)scarab 1/13/13 10:07 a.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)scarab 1/12/13 8:21 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/12/13 11:15 a.m.
                 Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)Chewbaccawakka 1/13/13 3:10 a.m.
                       Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)General Vagueness 1/13/13 9:38 a.m.
                             Pulse grenade: Polishing a turd.scarab 1/14/13 4:47 a.m.
                                   Re: Pulse grenade: Polishing a turd.NsU Soldier 1/14/13 5:16 a.m.
                                   You need to freeze it first. *NM*Quirel 1/14/13 2:30 p.m.
     Cleaner HUDscarab 1/12/13 8:38 a.m.
           TrueSonGoharotto 1/12/13 11:22 a.m.
     Some thoughts.Quirel 1/13/13 6:51 p.m.
           Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/13/13 7:35 p.m.
                 Re: Some thoughts.Quirel 1/13/13 10:54 p.m.
                       Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/13/13 11:11 p.m.
                             Re: Some thoughts.Quirel 1/13/13 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: Some thoughts.General Vagueness 1/13/13 11:37 p.m.
                       Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/14/13 12:42 a.m.
                             Re: Some thoughts.General Vagueness 1/14/13 8:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/14/13 10:40 p.m.
                                         Re: Some thoughts.General Vagueness 1/16/13 8:53 a.m.
                                               Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/16/13 11:10 a.m.
                                                     Re: Some thoughts.General Vagueness 1/17/13 12:55 a.m.
                                                           Re: Some thoughts.SonGoharotto 1/17/13 12:41 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Some thoughts.General Vagueness 1/18/13 12:04 a.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)RC Master 1/14/13 3:09 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/14/13 4:29 p.m.
                 Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)uberfoop 1/14/13 11:58 p.m.
                 Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)RC Master 1/15/13 10:52 a.m.
                       Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/15/13 3:14 p.m.
                       Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)General Vagueness 1/16/13 9:09 a.m.
                             inventory management suxscarab 1/16/13 9:34 a.m.
     Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)scarab 1/15/13 11:05 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Revolution - A Mock Game Doc (Part 1)SonGoharotto 1/15/13 11:45 a.m.



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