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Re: "In another time, I would have called him frie
Posted By: Urban ReflexDate: 12/5/12 5:20 p.m.

In Response To: "In another time, I would have called him friend." (Dervish)


: Obviously that line isn't canon, because it only plays when the Chief dies in
: Halo 3. But I still wonder how the Arbiter fits into this.

: While Cortana was away on High Charity, the Arbiter became a replacement BFF
: of sorts. The Arbiter clearly ended up with a great deal of respect for
: the Master Chief, which arguably went beyond recognizing a fellow warrior
: good at getting shit done and into the realm of a legitimate friendship.
: Enough of a friendship for the Arbiter to join the Chief in High Charity
: while the rest of the Elites took off (pansies), and to apparently mourn
: the Chief's death after Hood's eulogy.

: What is less obvious is how much this bond was reciprocated by the Chief.
: After being talked down from jamming a gun down the Arbiter's throat,
: Chief hardly acknowledges his partner's presence at all for the rest of
: the campaign. I don't think he ever speaks directly to the Arbiter; the
: most he ever does is that subtle nod after he kills Truth.

: Still, the Master Chief arguably shares more common ground with the Arbiter
: than he does with most humans. As mentioned in the OP, the Chief's
: experiences on the assorted Forerunner worlds are well beyond those of the
: other spartans, but the Arbiter was right there alongside him for much of
: his journey. They've seen and experienced things together that virtually
: no other living being in the galaxy could imagine. Despite the awkward
: circumstances, the Arbiter is a kindred spirit for the Chief in a way that
: approaches his relationship with Cortana.

: The Chief never expresses this directly, but then, why would he admit to a
: bromance with the enemy he has spent most of his life fighting? I think
: the closest the Chief comes to validating the Arbiter's existence comes at
: the beginning of the mission Halo, when he says, "We'll head for the
: portal, and we'll all go home. That "all" is important,
: because it recognizes the Arbiter as part of the posse, as somebody who he
: can share the idea of home with.

I think you nailed it when you spoke of their differences. I think the Arbiter is too alien for the Chief to properly... "get used to". I think that he respects him as a warrior, and relates to him through shared experiences, but because of Thel's history I don't think the Chief could ever call him a friend.

The Arbiter led a campaign of genocide against the humans, killing millions in blind faith. John strikes me as the sort to not forgive the Covenant so easily for what they have done, and so he is wary of the Arbiter. Untrusting. He has been the enemy for so long and done unthinkable things to John's fellow man.

Arby became useful for a time; their goals aligned and so John could use him as a means to an end. Like I say, there was respect, but I don't think there was more than that.

I would love to get another book about the Chief, following him on some adventure now without Cortana, exploring his thoughts and feelings. You would not trust this task to just any author though, it would have to be Nylund.


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"She said that to me once..." *SP*Urban Reflex 12/4/12 5:53 p.m.
     Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*uberfoop 12/4/12 6:07 p.m.
     SO VERY well said!Mid7night 12/4/12 6:09 p.m.
     Say what you will about the campaignpadraig08 12/4/12 6:42 p.m.
           Re: Say what you will about the campaignArchilen 12/4/12 11:57 p.m.
                 Re: Say what you will about the campaignmc_leprechaun 12/5/12 6:20 a.m.
                 Re: Say what you will about the campaignLeisandir 12/5/12 8:44 a.m.
                       Re: Say what you will about the campaignPeter Dolan 12/5/12 11:42 a.m.
     Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*SIX min WHISTLE 12/4/12 10:19 p.m.
           Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Archilen 12/4/12 11:53 p.m.
                 Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*SIX min WHISTLE 12/5/12 12:51 a.m.
                       Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Quirel 12/5/12 1:20 a.m.
                             Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Hawki 12/5/12 4:10 a.m.
                                   Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Archilen 12/5/12 5:34 a.m.
                                         Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Hawki 12/5/12 5:42 a.m.
                                         Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Quirel 12/5/12 6:07 a.m.
                                               Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*SonofMacPhisto 12/5/12 8:02 a.m.
                                   Re: "She said that to me once..." *SP*Quirel 12/5/12 5:44 a.m.
     "In another time, I would have called him friend."Dervish 12/5/12 3:00 p.m.
           Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieMetalingus627 12/5/12 4:18 p.m.
                 Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieUrban Reflex 12/5/12 5:06 p.m.
                       Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieMetalingus627 12/5/12 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieDervish 12/5/12 9:55 p.m.
           Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieUrban Reflex 12/5/12 5:20 p.m.
                 Re: "In another time, I would have called him frieLeisandir 12/5/12 5:36 p.m.



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