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Contradictions and astronomy.

Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu> Date: 10/14/11 9:52 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Because all of those things are easily visible (Leisandir)

: *shrug* Do you ride airplanes a lot? Eventually, people stop looking out the
: windows and just wait for the ride to end. If the Autumn was spending most
: of that time getting a refit, it's likely there wasn't even anything
: visible out the windows anyway.
Hold on a sec. It has been pointed out that people on the Autumn looked out and noticed something. Reach shows us what they would have noticed: giant smoldering areas and several massive explosions. And then you're saying that they wouldn't have looked, and that even if they had, they wouldn't have seen anything.
: To pull an example from another universe, the Normandy in Mass Effect is
: considered a stealth vehicle. It doesn't cloak, it just masks its thermal
: output. In space, there's not much point trying to look where you're
: going, you want a computer screen to tell you.
How well that would work is very circumstantial. In the case of Reach, we have a 27km-long vessel which seems to reflect visible light quite nicely. To put that into perspective, if the LNoS was in low orbit (as it is in LNoS) and uncloaked, if you were on the ground 1900 miles from LNoS's ground zero, it would be as wide in the sky as Earth's moon is from Earth's surface. Not only would anyone within that radius be able to see it, they would have a very good idea as to what it was.
To put that into even more perspective, LNoS in low orbit would be clearly visible and identifiable, by naked eye, probably even during the day, to everybody in an area substantially larger than the old Mongol Empire.
A lot of people in this thread are using the "nobody would notice the Covenant anyway" argument and... I dunno, I thought it was difficult to believe when Reach came out, and I think it's even more difficult to believe now that I've thought about it.

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Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 8:10 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped DEEP NNN 10/14/11 8:38 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 8:42 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped DEEP NNN 10/14/11 9:18 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 9:34 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped DEEP NNN 10/14/11 9:37 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Bry 10/14/11 10:49 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Postmortem 10/14/11 12:14 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped DEEP NNN 10/14/11 12:53 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Postmortem 10/14/11 12:56 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped General Battuta 10/14/11 1:20 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Lord Friendship 10/14/11 8:49 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Revenant1988 10/14/11 9:11 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 9:31 a.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped General Vagueness 10/14/11 4:43 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped CaptainTony 10/14/11 8:57 a.m.

These keep getting better JDQuackers 10/14/11 9:59 a.m.

Ditto Mid7night 10/14/11 10:07 a.m.

Re: Ditto CaptainTony 10/14/11 10:54 a.m.

Re: Ditto General Battuta 10/14/11 11:00 a.m.

Re: These keep getting better davidfuchs 10/14/11 11:09 a.m.

Re: These keep getting better Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 11:36 a.m.

Re: These keep getting better JDQuackers 10/14/11 1:08 p.m.

Looks like I was wrong. Gravemind 10/14/11 11:20 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. SonofMacPhisto 10/14/11 11:28 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. davidfuchs 10/14/11 11:31 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. SonofMacPhisto 10/14/11 11:35 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. General Battuta 10/14/11 11:46 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. Quirel 10/14/11 11:49 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. General Vagueness 10/14/11 4:57 p.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. Bry 10/14/11 5:16 p.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 11:44 a.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. Gravemind 10/14/11 3:19 p.m.

Because all of those things are easily visible. Leisandir 10/14/11 3:31 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible Gravemind 10/14/11 8:53 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible Leisandir 10/14/11 9:08 p.m.

Contradictions and astronomy. uberfoop 10/14/11 9:52 p.m.

I stand semi-corrected. uberfoop 10/15/11 12:11 a.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. Leisandir 10/15/11 7:22 a.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. uberfoop 10/15/11 1:23 p.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/15/11 4:05 p.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. General Vagueness 10/15/11 11:56 p.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. Quirel 10/16/11 12:53 a.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/15/11 8:57 a.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. uberfoop 10/15/11 1:02 p.m.

Re: I stand semi-corrected. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/15/11 2:57 p.m.

I don't see anything. SPARTAN-034 10/14/11 10:08 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible Metalingus627 10/14/11 10:22 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible General Battuta 10/14/11 11:42 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible General Battuta 10/14/11 11:42 p.m.

Re: Because all of those things are easily visible Metalingus627 10/15/11 12:34 p.m.

Its been implied that the UEG IS the media. *NM* DHalo 10/14/11 12:20 p.m.

Re: Its been implied that the UEG IS the media. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 12:24 p.m.

Re: Its been implied that the UEG IS the media. DHalo 10/14/11 6:02 p.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. uberfoop 10/14/11 3:18 p.m.

Re: Looks like I was wrong. Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 4:15 p.m.

Two things for DDR6... Urban Reflex 10/14/11 11:55 a.m.

Dance Dance Revolution 6? JDQuackers 10/14/11 1:11 p.m.

Don't worry, I thought the same thing. *NM* GrimBrother One 10/14/11 1:31 p.m.

343i... don't stop. Postmortem 10/14/11 12:30 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped General Vagueness 10/14/11 5:24 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Leisandir 10/14/11 5:41 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped General Vagueness 10/15/11 11:19 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/11 7:39 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped DEEP NNN 10/14/11 8:21 p.m.

Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped Imrane-117 10/15/11 8:13 a.m.

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Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 8:10 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	DEEP NNN	10/14/11 8:38 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 8:42 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	DEEP NNN	10/14/11 9:18 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 9:34 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	DEEP NNN	10/14/11 9:37 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Bry	10/14/11 10:49 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Postmortem	10/14/11 12:14 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	DEEP NNN	10/14/11 12:53 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Postmortem	10/14/11 12:56 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	General Battuta	10/14/11 1:20 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Lord Friendship	10/14/11 8:49 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Revenant1988	10/14/11 9:11 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 9:31 a.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	General Vagueness	10/14/11 4:43 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	CaptainTony	10/14/11 8:57 a.m.
These keep getting better	JDQuackers	10/14/11 9:59 a.m.
Ditto	Mid7night	10/14/11 10:07 a.m.
Re: Ditto	CaptainTony	10/14/11 10:54 a.m.
Re: Ditto	General Battuta	10/14/11 11:00 a.m.
Re: These keep getting better	davidfuchs	10/14/11 11:09 a.m.
Re: These keep getting better	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 11:36 a.m.
Re: These keep getting better	JDQuackers	10/14/11 1:08 p.m.
Looks like I was wrong.	Gravemind	10/14/11 11:20 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	SonofMacPhisto	10/14/11 11:28 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	davidfuchs	10/14/11 11:31 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	SonofMacPhisto	10/14/11 11:35 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	General Battuta	10/14/11 11:46 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	Quirel	10/14/11 11:49 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	General Vagueness	10/14/11 4:57 p.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	Bry	10/14/11 5:16 p.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 11:44 a.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	Gravemind	10/14/11 3:19 p.m.
Because all of those things are easily visible.	Leisandir	10/14/11 3:31 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	Gravemind	10/14/11 8:53 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	Leisandir	10/14/11 9:08 p.m.
Contradictions and astronomy.	uberfoop	10/14/11 9:52 p.m.
I stand semi-corrected.	uberfoop	10/15/11 12:11 a.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	Leisandir	10/15/11 7:22 a.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	uberfoop	10/15/11 1:23 p.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/15/11 4:05 p.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	General Vagueness	10/15/11 11:56 p.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	Quirel	10/16/11 12:53 a.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/15/11 8:57 a.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	uberfoop	10/15/11 1:02 p.m.
Re: I stand semi-corrected.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/15/11 2:57 p.m.
I don't see anything.	SPARTAN-034	10/14/11 10:08 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	Metalingus627	10/14/11 10:22 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	General Battuta	10/14/11 11:42 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	General Battuta	10/14/11 11:42 p.m.
Re: Because all of those things are easily visible	Metalingus627	10/15/11 12:34 p.m.
Its been implied that the UEG IS the media. NM	DHalo	10/14/11 12:20 p.m.
Re: Its been implied that the UEG IS the media.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 12:24 p.m.
Re: Its been implied that the UEG IS the media.	DHalo	10/14/11 6:02 p.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	uberfoop	10/14/11 3:18 p.m.
Re: Looks like I was wrong.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 4:15 p.m.
Two things for DDR6...	Urban Reflex	10/14/11 11:55 a.m.
Dance Dance Revolution 6?	JDQuackers	10/14/11 1:11 p.m.
Don't worry, I thought the same thing. NM	GrimBrother One	10/14/11 1:31 p.m.
343i... don't stop.	Postmortem	10/14/11 12:30 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	General Vagueness	10/14/11 5:24 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Leisandir	10/14/11 5:41 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	General Vagueness	10/15/11 11:19 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/14/11 7:39 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	DEEP NNN	10/14/11 8:21 p.m.
Re: Data Drop #5 has...well..dropped	Imrane-117	10/15/11 8:13 a.m.