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Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached... )
Posted By: Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) <sumpca@yahoo.com>Date: 9/27/10 10:09 a.m.

In Response To: Re: I've become attached... (General Battuta)


: I don't like the feeling that I have to work for this sense of personhood.

All Bungie stories require work to fully appreciate; many of the threads and themes are intimated rather than stated, and have been at least since Pathways Into Darkness. It's rather late in the studio's life-cycle to start complaining about it now.

: And I really cannot get attached to Carter. He feels utterly redundant to the
: story. What about Reach would have changed if he were deleted and Kat made
: the team leader?

Kat would not have been free to make Carter's counter-threat to Halsey when threatened with the brig, at the end of Sword Base. This is important in that it preserves Noble Team's independance from Halsey; without that, then Noble would've been Halsey's to control through blackmail... making the story between Sword Base and The Package essentially moot.

Leadership tasks would've forced KAT to delegate the hacking/technical stuff to another team-member; a combat leader can't afford to be heads-down on a comm link and lose situational awareness... in essence, it would've necessitated another Kat in the team.

Kat's death is thematically important; just as she's warming to Six, blammo. That's not (IMO) by studio caprice, but rather to reinforce the sense of loss and of being backed into a corner that's necessary to the story's emotional impact.

Kat and Carter make for a necessary duo, as each acts as an expository foil for the other. (The same way Jorge and Emile do.) Eliminating Carter without replacing him with a comparable figure would make exposition a lot clumsier.

-- Steve could probably come up with more, given time, but there's a hint that the office network might be back up and running now. (Accursed rack failures...)

The Northwest London Gamers' Group



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I've become attached...GrimBrother One 9/27/10 8:55 a.m.
     Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 9:02 a.m.
           Re: I've become attached...DHalo 9/27/10 10:02 a.m.
           Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached... )Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/27/10 10:09 a.m.
                 Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 10:18 a.m.
                       Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/27/10 10:42 a.m.
                             Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...wolfman 9/27/10 10:51 a.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 11:33 a.m.
                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...wolfman 9/27/10 12:15 p.m.
                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 12:30 p.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Bleezie 9/27/10 8:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...ZaneZavin 9/27/10 9:25 p.m.
                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/28/10 12:56 a.m.
                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Louis Wu 9/28/10 4:51 a.m.
                                                     Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/28/10 8:51 a.m.
                                                           Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Wayward Spleen™ 9/28/10 9:06 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 1:08 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Louis Wu 9/28/10 1:48 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 2:24 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Louis Wu 9/28/10 2:28 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Cody Miller 9/28/10 2:30 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Wayward Spleen™ 9/28/10 2:32 p.m.
                                                                                                     African or European? *NM*thebruce0 9/28/10 2:47 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 2:33 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Wayward Spleen™ 9/28/10 2:37 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Wayward Spleen™ 9/28/10 1:56 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 2:30 p.m.
                             Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...LionoftheMorning 9/27/10 11:15 a.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...DHalo 9/27/10 2:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...uberfoop 9/27/10 4:40 p.m.
                             Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 11:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Louis Wu 9/27/10 12:23 p.m.
                                         Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 12:32 p.m.
                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 12:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...DHalo 9/27/10 2:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...General Battuta 9/27/10 2:53 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...DHalo 9/27/10 3:47 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Beckx 9/27/10 4:06 p.m.
                                                                       Deux Ex *NM*Spec ops Grunt 9/27/10 4:26 p.m.
                                                                       Would anyone mind if the campaigns did that?Leviathan 9/27/10 6:09 p.m.
                                                                             I tend to agreepadraig08 9/27/10 6:25 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Would anyone mind if the campaigns did that?thebruce0 9/28/10 8:27 a.m.
                                               Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Louis Wu 9/27/10 12:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/27/10 4:53 p.m.
                                         You've got too much time on your hands already :p *NM*Ragashingo 9/27/10 5:25 p.m.
                                               Nah.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/27/10 5:41 p.m.
                                         Win. *NM*thebruce0 9/28/10 8:30 a.m.
                       They are basically equalschris101b 9/27/10 11:12 a.m.
                             Re: They are basically equalsGeneral Battuta 9/27/10 11:34 a.m.
                                   Re: They are basically equals *SP*Harmanimus 9/27/10 6:10 p.m.
                                         This *NM*DHalo 9/27/10 6:51 p.m.
                                         I concur. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/27/10 7:06 p.m.
                                         Re: They are basically equals *SP*SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 7:33 p.m.
                                         Re: They are basically equals *SP*General Battuta 9/28/10 12:37 a.m.
                 Re: Now with *SP* (was Re: I've become attached...Kermit 9/27/10 11:27 a.m.
     Re: I've become attached...reprobate 9/27/10 10:02 a.m.
           *SP*RC Master 9/27/10 10:04 a.m.
                 You all know you were thinking it, too. :D I was. *NM*DHalo 9/27/10 2:19 p.m.
                       Re: You all know you were thinking it, too. :D I wreprobate 9/27/10 4:13 p.m.
     Get a glimpse of her underneath everything.OMGIts Renegade 9/27/10 10:47 a.m.
     Re: I've become attached...GrimBrother IV 9/27/10 11:08 a.m.
           Re: I've become attached...GrimBrother One 9/27/10 11:53 a.m.
     Re: I've become attached...Ragashingo 9/27/10 12:53 p.m.



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