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Re: bungie burnout
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 5/26/06 1:35 a.m.

In Response To: Re: bungie burnout (Roger Wilco)

: Microsoft saved Bungie and Bungie put the Xbox on the map.

Saved it from what? Just out of curiosity. I have my own answers, but I'm interested as to what yours are.

Bungie was already on the map-- just a different map. They were the undisputed #1 Mac game developer, and a critically acclaimed PC games developer. Myth won several game of the year awards. In some ways, that game still impresses me more than Halo, perhaps because it's more of a break, genre-wise, with its antecedents than Halo is, which is a pretty conventional FPS with vehicle play. Halo's success lies in its execution, whereas Myth was not only well executed, but categorically different from nearly all the similar games at the time, in terms of gameplay and interface.

Being as popular
: as Halo is put(s) a great deal of pressure on both parties. Microsofts
: demands may seem harsh but they are running a business and Halo is the
: flagship product. Sure you can't rush greatness but you can't let
: opportunities slip by either. Having a 900 pound gorilla breathing down
: your neck may seem depressing but it does keep a developer focused.

What's the Bungie Webmaster got to do with this?

: Otherwise you're Valve and you spend six years on a sequel.

Yeah, I really wouldn't want to be Valve right now. Half-Life, Half-Life 2, CounterStrike, Counter-Strike source, all the expansion packs and community mods; other companies licensing your engine for their own games.

Wait, what was wrong with Valve again?

Valve chose to do expansions and other projects rather than go right into their sequel, and at the end of the day it wasn't a big deal. Half-Life came out a bit before Halo, and Half-Life 2 came out after Halo 2. I've already gone on at length about Halo 2 and Half-Life 2, but as much as I love and respect Bungie I think Valve does a lot of things right, too.

: At least Bungie has enough clout that they can push back a bit. All in all
: I'd say they are in a pretty good place.

I've wondered whether the long silence before confirming Halo 3 was, in fact, an assertion of Bungie's ability to "push back" after Bill Gates spoke out of turn and promised Halo 3 to counter the PS3.

Just a thought.

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bungie burnoutvisibledetritus 5/25/06 7:30 p.m.
     Re: bungie burnoutFrankie 5/25/06 7:47 p.m.
           Re: bungie burnoutUrsusArctos 5/25/06 8:08 p.m.
           Hogan's Heroes...Pratch™ 5/25/06 8:20 p.m.
                 Allard was right, Fries was wrong.JakeDaGreat 5/25/06 8:53 p.m.
                       Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong.visibledetritus 5/25/06 8:57 p.m.
                             Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong.MSN 5/25/06 9:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong.visibledetritus 5/25/06 10:54 p.m.
                                   Real Artists ShipNarcogen 5/26/06 1:29 a.m.
                                         Re: Real Artists ShipCount Zero 5/26/06 12:36 p.m.
                                               Not to mentionPratch™ 5/26/06 12:50 p.m.
     Re: bungie burnoutRoger Wilco 5/25/06 9:15 p.m.
           Re: bungie burnoutRade 5/25/06 10:31 p.m.
                 HarshNarcogen 5/26/06 1:41 a.m.
           Re: bungie burnoutNarcogen 5/26/06 1:35 a.m.
                 Re: bungie burnoutRoger Wilco 5/26/06 2:32 p.m.
     Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*gspawn 5/26/06 8:08 a.m.
           Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesNarcogen 5/26/06 10:18 a.m.
                 Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesMatt 5/26/06 10:28 a.m.
                       Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesNarcogen 5/26/06 10:38 a.m.
                             Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesMatt 5/26/06 11:02 a.m.
                                   Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesNarcogen 5/26/06 12:01 p.m.
                       Re:The three levels dealShortRoundMcfly 5/26/06 12:08 p.m.
                             Re:The three levels dealCount Zero 5/26/06 12:42 p.m.
                             Re:The three levels dealNarcogen 5/26/06 1:16 p.m.
                 Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesMSN 5/26/06 10:59 a.m.
                       LIES!Pratch™ 5/26/06 11:45 a.m.
                       RefutationNarcogen 5/26/06 11:54 a.m.
                             Re: RefutationMSN 5/26/06 9:06 p.m.
                                   Re: RefutationNarcogen 5/26/06 9:58 p.m.
                 Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutesMa1agate 5/26/06 1:00 p.m.
                       So why not...Pratch™ 5/26/06 1:27 p.m.
                             Re: So why not...Ma1agate 5/26/06 2:07 p.m.
                                   By all meansPratch™ 5/26/06 2:29 p.m.
                                         Well...Pratch™ 5/26/06 2:43 p.m.
           Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*Matt 5/26/06 10:22 a.m.
                 Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*Narcogen 5/26/06 10:40 a.m.
                       Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*Sep7imus [subnova] 5/26/06 12:42 p.m.
                       Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*KP 5/26/06 1:23 p.m.
                             Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*Louis Wu 5/26/06 1:42 p.m.
                                   Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*Narcogen 5/26/06 3:22 p.m.
                       Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG*UrsusArctos 5/26/06 8:33 p.m.
     Re: bungie burnoutTwelve Large 5/26/06 10:41 p.m.
           Re: bungie burnoutNarcogen 5/27/06 6:55 a.m.



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