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| Real Artists Ship | |
| Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net> | Date: 5/26/06 1:29 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong. (MSN) : A 13-million copies sold wheel. : Shipping puts a lot of things in perspective. : MSN Mat's tagged the essence of any so-called "business vs creative" conflict right here. If the time to "be creative" was unlimited, nothing would ever be finished or sold, and at the end of the day, whether they are art or not, videogames are products that need to be finished, shipped and sold, or else there's nothing to talk about. So before anyone goes too far down the axis of "evil money-grubbing company forces creative studio to ship unfinished game" road, one might have to admit that from one perspective, nothing is ever finished until it ships, and given unlimited resources, some things might never actually be finished, because there's always room for improvement if you're enough of a perfectionist. And I've always got the impression that Bungie is practically bristling with perfectionists. Perhaps its hackneyed by this time, but I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Steve Jobs during the Macintosh's development (or was it the Lisa?) Real artists ship. When the date to ship is set and by whom is probably still a contentious issue, but eventually it has to happen. I mean, does anybody think that Duke Nukem Forever is going to be a game that will be so good that ten years of development is justified? Does anyone even care anymore? | |
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| Replies: |
| bungie burnout | visibledetritus | 5/25/06 7:30 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Frankie | 5/25/06 7:47 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | UrsusArctos | 5/25/06 8:08 p.m. |
| Hogan's Heroes... | Pratch™ | 5/25/06 8:20 p.m. |
| Allard was right, Fries was wrong. | JakeDaGreat | 5/25/06 8:53 p.m. |
| Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong. | visibledetritus | 5/25/06 8:57 p.m. |
| Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong. | MSN | 5/25/06 9:25 p.m. |
| Re: Allard was right, Fries was wrong. | visibledetritus | 5/25/06 10:54 p.m. |
| Real Artists Ship | Narcogen | 5/26/06 1:29 a.m. |
| Re: Real Artists Ship | Count Zero | 5/26/06 12:36 p.m. |
| Not to mention | Pratch™ | 5/26/06 12:50 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Roger Wilco | 5/25/06 9:15 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Rade | 5/25/06 10:31 p.m. |
| Harsh | Narcogen | 5/26/06 1:41 a.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Narcogen | 5/26/06 1:35 a.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Roger Wilco | 5/26/06 2:32 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | gspawn | 5/26/06 8:08 a.m. |
| Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Narcogen | 5/26/06 10:18 a.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Matt | 5/26/06 10:28 a.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Narcogen | 5/26/06 10:38 a.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Matt | 5/26/06 11:02 a.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Narcogen | 5/26/06 12:01 p.m. |
| Re:The three levels deal | ShortRoundMcfly | 5/26/06 12:08 p.m. |
| Re:The three levels deal | Count Zero | 5/26/06 12:42 p.m. |
| Re:The three levels deal | Narcogen | 5/26/06 1:16 p.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | MSN | 5/26/06 10:59 a.m. |
| LIES! | Pratch™ | 5/26/06 11:45 a.m. |
| Refutation | Narcogen | 5/26/06 11:54 a.m. |
| Re: Refutation | MSN | 5/26/06 9:06 p.m. |
| Re: Refutation | Narcogen | 5/26/06 9:58 p.m. |
| Re: Don't worry, one comes along every 5 minutes | Ma1agate | 5/26/06 1:00 p.m. |
| So why not... | Pratch™ | 5/26/06 1:27 p.m. |
| Re: So why not... | Ma1agate | 5/26/06 2:07 p.m. |
| By all means | Pratch™ | 5/26/06 2:29 p.m. |
| Well... | Pratch™ | 5/26/06 2:43 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | Matt | 5/26/06 10:22 a.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | Narcogen | 5/26/06 10:40 a.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 5/26/06 12:42 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | KP | 5/26/06 1:23 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | Louis Wu | 5/26/06 1:42 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | Narcogen | 5/26/06 3:22 p.m. |
| Re: IMO: somebody missed the boat *really LONG* | UrsusArctos | 5/26/06 8:33 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Twelve Large | 5/26/06 10:41 p.m. |
| Re: bungie burnout | Narcogen | 5/27/06 6:55 a.m. |
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