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Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro
Posted By: zudoDate: 12/5/01 12:27 p.m.

In Response To: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur (Mark Levin)

: This message may be as old as the
: station, written by Yrro himself before he freed the S'pht and left in
: despair.

Note: Yrro left in despair...

: I believe that the Jjaro are
: something similar: A collection of entities who rose to the top of their
: races and were chosen to be brough higher, almost to godhood. The
: seed-like imagery of the final screen could suggest this, although it
: could refer to the Marine as much as Durandal.

Note: The jjaro left ...for some reason.

It is clear that Yrro is at the very least a member of the jjaro race. Here's something to argue about following the death of Volunteers -- was Yrro actually the ENTIRE Jjaro race?

I don't mean that the jjaro were one physical entity. Remember we learn of Yrro in M2 through S'pht generated terminals (on or near The Hard Stuff Rules I believe) and that the Spht share at least one form of collective consciousness. That consciousness is split into Clans, and again into a similar structure to individuals. Recall 'You destroy me, but free the unit-whole' being recorded (what would appear) specifically for the marine to read in M2 (I forget which map) and 'seven of mine' in Infinity : I'm recalling these quotes from memory, I'm sure of their authenticity, just not their specific origin ^_^

...This would imply that S'pht interpretation of individuality is distinct to our own, and manifests itself on many different levels. It is a very small and relatively safe step, therefore, to interpret 'Yrro' as 'jjaro' -- the phonetic similarity has been noted in the past.

Time, now, for the easily debatable BIG THEORY : that the Jjaro caused, somehow, the death of a sister race, or witnessed it in the battle with the Wr'kncacnter (aside: perhaps the jjaro invoke the Wr'kncacnter through technology, and playing about with pocket universes ^_^), and did not *ascend*, but rather *fled* in despair.

: (the Jjaro seem to rely too much on manipulation, and on
: allowing someone else to do things they seem unable to; the Marine is
: perfectly capable of executing his plans himself).

Perhaps the jjaro are wracked, still, by despair, following the death of their sister race(?).

I realise that this is hypothesis upon hypothesis, and I fully hope that someone attempts to challenge it, however... The jjaro perhaps made the Wr'kncacnter exist in this universe and therefore know exactly how to remove them (as in PiD) but would a) have to recreate a gravity well as described by Durandal to make it back through, and b) would prefer not to accidentally destroy big important stuff again ^_^

Ideas/criticisms/input, anyone? I'd really like to start chewing this one up ^_^

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Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurMark Levin 12/5/01 9:59 a.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurBen Potter 12/5/01 10:10 a.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurTycho7en 12/5/01 10:27 a.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurBen Potter 12/5/01 10:41 a.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurTycho7en 12/5/01 1:13 p.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsSteve Levinson 12/5/01 1:42 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsTynskel 12/6/01 12:28 a.m.
                             Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsSteve Levinson 12/6/01 4:42 a.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsDan Aris 12/6/01 2:54 a.m.
                             Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsSteve Levinson 12/6/01 4:57 a.m.
                                   Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsDan Aris 12/6/01 5:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 LimitationsSteve Levinson 12/6/01 9:43 a.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurAndrew Nagy 12/5/01 5:58 p.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurCharlesS 12/5/01 7:11 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurAndrew Nagy 12/6/01 2:08 a.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicurarchon 12/5/01 11:04 a.m.
     Thanks Mark!Hamish Sinclair 12/5/01 11:26 a.m.
           Re:Thanks Mark!martin antell 12/6/01 2:34 a.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurAlfred Mordeir 12/5/01 12:20 p.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurForrest of B.org 12/8/01 11:27 a.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurMark Levin 12/8/01 12:06 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurShnu 12/8/01 3:27 p.m.
                             Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurSiliconDream =PN= 12/8/01 7:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurShnu 12/8/01 7:18 p.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurSiliconDream =PN= 12/8/01 1:24 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurCharlesS 12/8/01 5:12 p.m.
                 :) *NM*ydnar 12/17/01 11:00 a.m.
                       What's that a picture of?Still Thinking 12/17/01 11:10 a.m.
                             Re: What's that a picture of?Hamish Sinclair 12/17/01 11:57 a.m.
                                   Why wasn't it released?Ilium Rise 12/17/01 4:48 p.m.
                                   Re: What's that a picture of?Trahojen 12/17/01 10:19 p.m.
                                         Re: What's that a picture of?Hamish Sinclair 12/18/01 12:19 a.m.
                                               Is he around? *NM*Trahojen 12/18/01 3:50 a.m.
                                                     Always *NM*Hamish Sinclair 12/18/01 5:11 a.m.
                                               Re: What's that a picture of?Mazilurik 12/18/01 8:29 a.m.
                                                     Re: What's that a picture of?Jason Harper 12/18/01 8:57 a.m.
                                                           Re: What's that a picture of?Mazilurik 12/18/01 10:21 a.m.
                                                           speaking of shaderlab...gr 12/20/01 9:55 p.m.
                                                                 Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?Lophan 12/24/01 7:55 a.m.
                                                                       Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?Hamish Sinclair 12/24/01 8:46 a.m.
                                                                             Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?Tru7h 12/25/01 4:07 a.m.
                                                                                   I did.Djof 12/25/01 6:23 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I did.Tru7h 12/26/01 2:46 a.m.
                             Re: What's that a picture of?Jason Harper 12/17/01 1:17 p.m.
                                   Re: What's that a picture of?mnemesis 12/17/01 1:52 p.m.
                                   Re: What's that a picture of?Claude Errera 12/17/01 4:58 p.m.
                             Re: What's that a picture of?gr 12/20/01 9:52 p.m.
                       Is That Vulcan? *NM*REB 12/17/01 11:42 a.m.
                             Analogue *NM*Hamish Sinclair 12/17/01 11:58 a.m.
                       I wanna have this editors!!! *NM*Tilo Probst 12/18/01 4:08 a.m.
     What a Game. Thx Mark. *NM*Sidoh 12/5/01 12:20 p.m.
     Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjarozudo 12/5/01 12:27 p.m.
           Re: Yrro = ALL the JjaroShnu 12/6/01 10:59 a.m.
                 Re: Yrro = ALL the JjaroForrest of B.org 12/8/01 11:06 a.m.
                       Re: Yrro = ALL the JjaroSiliconDream =PN= 12/8/01 12:41 p.m.
                             Re: Yrro = ALL the JjaroShnu 12/8/01 3:01 p.m.
     Three Cheers for Mark!Darksbane 12/5/01 2:36 p.m.
     Three Cheers for Mark! ntDarksbane 12/5/01 2:36 p.m.
     Thank you Mark and everyone else...Grasshopper 12/6/01 10:09 a.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurArsonperbuilding 12/6/01 2:21 p.m.
     Bravo, Mark!ferrex 12/6/01 6:47 p.m.
     Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (vlt)Lord SmackyBob 12/6/01 10:00 p.m.
           Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (pt)Callie21V 12/11/01 2:53 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurMjolnir IV 12/7/01 11:30 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurDavid Curry 12/8/01 2:46 p.m.
           Woo, No life! NM *NM*Red Hot Ryan 12/10/01 6:30 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurSteve Rogers 12/16/01 3:06 a.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak SicurHamish Sinclair 12/16/01 3:37 a.m.



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