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	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations
	Posted By: Dan Aris	Date: 12/6/01 5:28 a.m.
	In Response To: Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations (Steve Levinson) : Don't get me wrong - I am *very* appreciative of everything Loren Petrich and : the rest of the A1 team have done - but as a consumer, I have a legitimate : gripe. Yes, the latest build improves compatibility with the Classic : Environment in OS X, but A1 will be left in the dust if it isn't ported to : carbon. I guess they can be forgiven in light of the time it's taking : Adobe et al to bring out carbon versions of their software, and I know : that I'm very impatient ;-) . I'm just saying that the open source : community ought to focus on getting builds out the door that at least : *match* what the infinity engine could do before adding new enhancements. But it has been ported to Mac OS X, it's just that the latest X build isn't quite in sync with the latest Classic build. And right now basically all they're doing is getting the bugs out of everything. They had a working version to start with--that was finished about a month after the source was originally released. There are stable Classic builds that use OpenGL wonderfully, and there are even some stable builds with the Bridges & Balconies code: it's the most recent stuff, especially, I think, the 3D model stuff, that's mucking it up. It's not just that they're adding lots of new features before it's stable in the first place; it's mainly that the new features take a LOT of debugging. Sorry about the rant; I just feel the need to defend these guys. Dan Aris

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	Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Mark Levin	12/5/01 9:59 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Ben Potter	12/5/01 10:10 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Tycho7en	12/5/01 10:27 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Ben Potter	12/5/01 10:41 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Tycho7en	12/5/01 1:13 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Steve Levinson	12/5/01 1:42 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Tynskel	12/6/01 12:28 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Steve Levinson	12/6/01 4:42 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Dan Aris	12/6/01 2:54 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Steve Levinson	12/6/01 4:57 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Dan Aris	12/6/01 5:28 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations	Steve Levinson	12/6/01 9:43 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Andrew Nagy	12/5/01 5:58 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	CharlesS	12/5/01 7:11 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Andrew Nagy	12/6/01 2:08 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	archon	12/5/01 11:04 a.m.
	Thanks Mark!	Hamish Sinclair	12/5/01 11:26 a.m.
	Re:Thanks Mark!	martin antell	12/6/01 2:34 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Alfred Mordeir	12/5/01 12:20 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Forrest of B.org	12/8/01 11:27 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Mark Levin	12/8/01 12:06 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Shnu	12/8/01 3:27 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	SiliconDream =PN=	12/8/01 7:08 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Shnu	12/8/01 7:18 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	SiliconDream =PN=	12/8/01 1:24 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	CharlesS	12/8/01 5:12 p.m.
	:) *NM*	ydnar	12/17/01 11:00 a.m.
	What's that a picture of?	Still Thinking	12/17/01 11:10 a.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Hamish Sinclair	12/17/01 11:57 a.m.
	Why wasn't it released?	Ilium Rise	12/17/01 4:48 p.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Trahojen	12/17/01 10:19 p.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Hamish Sinclair	12/18/01 12:19 a.m.
	Is he around? *NM*	Trahojen	12/18/01 3:50 a.m.
	Always *NM*	Hamish Sinclair	12/18/01 5:11 a.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Mazilurik	12/18/01 8:29 a.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Jason Harper	12/18/01 8:57 a.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Mazilurik	12/18/01 10:21 a.m.
	speaking of shaderlab...	gr	12/20/01 9:55 p.m.
	Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?	Lophan	12/24/01 7:55 a.m.
	Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?	Hamish Sinclair	12/24/01 8:46 a.m.
	Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s?	Tru7h	12/25/01 4:07 a.m.
	I did.	Djof	12/25/01 6:23 a.m.
	Re: I did.	Tru7h	12/26/01 2:46 a.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Jason Harper	12/17/01 1:17 p.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	mnemesis	12/17/01 1:52 p.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	Claude Errera	12/17/01 4:58 p.m.
	Re: What's that a picture of?	gr	12/20/01 9:52 p.m.
	Is That Vulcan? *NM*	REB	12/17/01 11:42 a.m.
	Analogue *NM*	Hamish Sinclair	12/17/01 11:58 a.m.
	I wanna have this editors!!! *NM*	Tilo Probst	12/18/01 4:08 a.m.
	What a Game. Thx Mark. *NM*	Sidoh	12/5/01 12:20 p.m.
	Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro	zudo	12/5/01 12:27 p.m.
	Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro	Shnu	12/6/01 10:59 a.m.
	Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro	Forrest of B.org	12/8/01 11:06 a.m.
	Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro	SiliconDream =PN=	12/8/01 12:41 p.m.
	Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro	Shnu	12/8/01 3:01 p.m.
	Three Cheers for Mark!	Darksbane	12/5/01 2:36 p.m.
	Three Cheers for Mark! nt	Darksbane	12/5/01 2:36 p.m.
	Thank you Mark and everyone else...	Grasshopper	12/6/01 10:09 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Arsonperbuilding	12/6/01 2:21 p.m.
	Bravo, Mark!	ferrex	12/6/01 6:47 p.m.
	Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (vlt)	Lord SmackyBob	12/6/01 10:00 p.m.
	Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (pt)	Callie21V	12/11/01 2:53 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Mjolnir IV	12/7/01 11:30 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	David Curry	12/8/01 2:46 p.m.
	Woo, No life! NM *NM*	Red Hot Ryan	12/10/01 6:30 p.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Steve Rogers	12/16/01 3:06 a.m.
	Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur	Hamish Sinclair	12/16/01 3:37 a.m.

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