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Posted By: SiliconDream =PN= | Date: 12/8/01 1:24 p.m. | |
In Response To: Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur (Forrest of B.org) : Then again, in M2 it's never adequately explained how Durandal escaped
Personally, it doesn't seem to me like primal pattern abduction even factors into Durandal's M2 escape. His Fatum Iustum Stultorum explanation is pretty straightforward--the Pfhor trapped him for study, he managed to break out (or sneak some commands out to the S'pht), and he took over that ship. It's not incredibly detailed, but I'm not sure how much of a cyberspace Great Escape the Marine (let alone the player) could be expected to understand or care about. Plus, if he had escaped via his primal pattern being abducted by someone (his Marine, an alternate-timeline Marine, a Bob), it's hard to see how he would have ended up on the Pfhor flagship. Surely he would have been reactivated within a S'pht- or human-controlled system as he was in Infinity? I think we get a bit more info on Durandal's M2 method of escape in the second Rage timeline, where Tycho anticipates his "disgorging a thousand wriggling worms into the S'pht consciousness" once he's captured. That seems to imply that he escapes by leaking commands out of his prison and controlling the S'pht indirectly. Of course, this method must fail in order for the galaxy to be saved; if Durandal escapes by himself as he did in M2, then he never has a chance to merge with Thoth. The latter says "Your construct/bethought himself higher/awaiting far beneath/my fate was written," which suggests to me that Thoth knows he's supposed to merge with Durandal, but that Durandal would have too much pride to do this willingly even if he knew it might be a good idea. He certainly doesn't seem to think much of Thoth in M2. So the Marine has to go down there and plug Durandal in personally while he can't say no. --SiliconDream |
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Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Mark Levin | 12/5/01 9:59 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Ben Potter | 12/5/01 10:10 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Tycho7en | 12/5/01 10:27 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Ben Potter | 12/5/01 10:41 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Tycho7en | 12/5/01 1:13 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Steve Levinson | 12/5/01 1:42 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Tynskel | 12/6/01 12:28 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Steve Levinson | 12/6/01 4:42 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Dan Aris | 12/6/01 2:54 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Steve Levinson | 12/6/01 4:57 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Dan Aris | 12/6/01 5:28 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur/A1 Limitations | Steve Levinson | 12/6/01 9:43 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Andrew Nagy | 12/5/01 5:58 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | CharlesS | 12/5/01 7:11 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Andrew Nagy | 12/6/01 2:08 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | archon | 12/5/01 11:04 a.m. | |
Thanks Mark! | Hamish Sinclair | 12/5/01 11:26 a.m. | |
Re:Thanks Mark! | martin antell | 12/6/01 2:34 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Alfred Mordeir | 12/5/01 12:20 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Forrest of B.org | 12/8/01 11:27 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Mark Levin | 12/8/01 12:06 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Shnu | 12/8/01 3:27 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | SiliconDream =PN= | 12/8/01 7:08 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Shnu | 12/8/01 7:18 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | SiliconDream =PN= | 12/8/01 1:24 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | CharlesS | 12/8/01 5:12 p.m. | |
:) *NM* | ydnar | 12/17/01 11:00 a.m. | |
What's that a picture of? | Still Thinking | 12/17/01 11:10 a.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Hamish Sinclair | 12/17/01 11:57 a.m. | |
Why wasn't it released? | Ilium Rise | 12/17/01 4:48 p.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Trahojen | 12/17/01 10:19 p.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Hamish Sinclair | 12/18/01 12:19 a.m. | |
Is he around? *NM* | Trahojen | 12/18/01 3:50 a.m. | |
Always *NM* | Hamish Sinclair | 12/18/01 5:11 a.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Mazilurik | 12/18/01 8:29 a.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Jason Harper | 12/18/01 8:57 a.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Mazilurik | 12/18/01 10:21 a.m. | |
speaking of shaderlab... | gr | 12/20/01 9:55 p.m. | |
Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s? | Lophan | 12/24/01 7:55 a.m. | |
Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s? | Hamish Sinclair | 12/24/01 8:46 a.m. | |
Re: any help for the Duality .mp3s? | Tru7h | 12/25/01 4:07 a.m. | |
I did. | Djof | 12/25/01 6:23 a.m. | |
Re: I did. | Tru7h | 12/26/01 2:46 a.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Jason Harper | 12/17/01 1:17 p.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | mnemesis | 12/17/01 1:52 p.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | Claude Errera | 12/17/01 4:58 p.m. | |
Re: What's that a picture of? | gr | 12/20/01 9:52 p.m. | |
Is That Vulcan? *NM* | REB | 12/17/01 11:42 a.m. | |
Analogue *NM* | Hamish Sinclair | 12/17/01 11:58 a.m. | |
I wanna have this editors!!! *NM* | Tilo Probst | 12/18/01 4:08 a.m. | |
What a Game. Thx Mark. *NM* | Sidoh | 12/5/01 12:20 p.m. | |
Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro | zudo | 12/5/01 12:27 p.m. | |
Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro | Shnu | 12/6/01 10:59 a.m. | |
Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro | Forrest of B.org | 12/8/01 11:06 a.m. | |
Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro | SiliconDream =PN= | 12/8/01 12:41 p.m. | |
Re: Yrro = ALL the Jjaro | Shnu | 12/8/01 3:01 p.m. | |
Three Cheers for Mark! | Darksbane | 12/5/01 2:36 p.m. | |
Three Cheers for Mark! nt | Darksbane | 12/5/01 2:36 p.m. | |
Thank you Mark and everyone else... | Grasshopper | 12/6/01 10:09 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Arsonperbuilding | 12/6/01 2:21 p.m. | |
Bravo, Mark! | ferrex | 12/6/01 6:47 p.m. | |
Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (vlt) | Lord SmackyBob | 12/6/01 10:00 p.m. | |
Hats off to Fifteen Twelve! (pt) | Callie21V | 12/11/01 2:53 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Mjolnir IV | 12/7/01 11:30 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | David Curry | 12/8/01 2:46 p.m. | |
Woo, No life! NM *NM* | Red Hot Ryan | 12/10/01 6:30 p.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Steve Rogers | 12/16/01 3:06 a.m. | |
Re: Volunteers: Aye Mak Sicur | Hamish Sinclair | 12/16/01 3:37 a.m. |
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