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| Posted By: PerseusSpartacus | Date: 11/25/17 10:14 a.m. |
| In Response To: Re: Eternal stuff (VikingBoyBilly) : Hounds, armageddon beasts, and the beta Marathon creature. Make it happen,
I will say that of those three, the Hound is probably the most interesting and most feasible option. I say most feasible because it's the one we have the best images of, specifically a piece of concept art and a relatively high-resolution screenshot from an early version of Marathon. The other two are only visible in a somewhat low-resolution screenshot that really doesn't offer much detail to work with. We also have a good bit of info on how the Hound worked. The Marathon Scrapbook has this to say: "Reg designed three aliens that didn’t make the cut for the final game: The Hound, The Armageddon Beast and a non-combatant alien crewman. The Hound moved quite fast but could not climb stairs and only had a melee attack. Hounds acted a lot like piranhas, guarding low spots on a map and wandering off when they couldn’t attack the player any longer. The Armageddon Beast sucked down damage like the Big Blue Meanie in Pathways and shot streams of highly damaging little pellets. Both were dropped because no levels had been planned where these monsters would conceivably be fun to fight. The alien crewmen were intended to be Pfhor counterparts of the human civilians on the Marathon: weaponless and unable to defend themselves in any way. A memory limit on the number of monsters types per level forced Bungie to abandon them." - The Marathon Scrapbook, Page 7 So yes, we also have info on how the Armageddon Beast and the Alien Crewmen worked, but to be honest, neither description sounds particularly interesting – by contrast, the Hound sounds very different from any other enemies in Marathon. And yes, the mechanic of staying in low spots and not being able to climb stairs should be entirely doable in Aleph One. In the Physics, setting a monster's Max Ledge Jump to zero should stop the alien from ever being able to climb stairs at all. Alternatively, you could set it to just be a very low number, and then make sure that all true stairs leading out of areas where you want Hounds to be are fairly steep stairs. Vale,
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| Re: Eternal stuff | nevets01 | 11/25/17 4:37 a.m. |
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| Re: Eternal stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/26/17 9:25 p.m. |
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| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Forrest of B.org | 10/27/17 8:32 a.m. |
| Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED* | scratskinner | 11/9/17 10:50 p.m. |
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| Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED* | Forrest of B.org | 12/21/17 3:48 p.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/17 12:18 p.m. |
| Future Perfect expanded | Forrest of B.org | 11/29/17 10:00 p.m. |
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| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Forrest of B.org | 12/7/17 10:24 a.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | scratskinner | 12/8/17 7:22 p.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Forrest of B.org | 12/9/17 8:19 a.m. |
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| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | General-RADIX | 12/13/17 3:18 p.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Yossarian | 12/15/17 9:58 p.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | scratskinner | 12/16/17 1:22 p.m. |
| Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva | Forrest of B.org | 12/18/17 12:56 p.m. |
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