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Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva
Posted By: Forrest of B.orgDate: 10/2/17 9:56 a.m.

In Response To: Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva (scratskinner)

: Do you have a breakdown on what was changed? (or, if easier, not changed?)

I added some scenes with ghosts into a few parts of the Darklight series (mostly Meantime).

I noted some framing stories that hadn't been noted before (Antiquity is framed within a scene in Nurbal, Otherworld is framed within a scene in Virtuality, maybe a few others, I don't remember which were noted before or not).

I added a little more action to the end of Beyond the Eye of Chaos pt 3.

I noted some more concrete action in the first Antiquity episode that will serve as the means of showing the backstory currently just exposited in the first two paragraphs thereof.

I added some description of the fancy weapons used by Xio and Aten when rescuing Metis from Olympus Mons.

I added a bit to the end of Children of Antiquity about Keius destroying the other wormholes from Sol, to explain why there is only one wormhole from there.

I added a few notes to Children of Antiquity pt2 and War of Antiquity pt2 about hive minds.

I noted that Keius only created Keie in Children of Antiquity, and didn't create Oron until plans hatched during War of Antiquity pt 1.

I added a few scenes to Opening the Eye of Chaos pt1 describing some of Metis' touring business activities to help set up the world and foreshadow things.

I added the bit about Murdock and his sister's dreams to Rising of the Darklight.

I gave Goran from the Antiquity series a last name, and had one of his family survive into Lievus Meij.

I decided that "Pseudo" is not a name proper, rather she is called "the Pseudo-Witch" because she's not exactly a conventional witch (but of course, also because of Xiuying's art style, Xiu Dao, whence Sue Do and then Pseudo).

I noted the part when Oron freezes and drops out of communication to Pantheon Exodus.

I added a note about Xio and Metis' client as we've discussed to the end of Opening the Eye of Chaos.

I noted why Thomas was looking for the Gem of Fire in Meantime of the Darklight.

I had Metis' narration of the Pantheon series explicitly note the connections between the events described and the events inaccurately recorded in various world mythologies.

And I noted something about the tech level in Rising of the Darklight.

: Also, an issue: you know what you were saying about Vis not having a clue on
: what a bad idea it was to fulfill the prophecy?

: From The Falling of the Darklight, Part 1, Ep 1: "In the land of
: Sphidia, a wizard-priest of the Church of the Eldest narrates to his
: congregation the central myth of their religion ."

: Now take a good hard look at the next episode .

That's a good catch. My first thought was "well, Vis doesn't necessarily know the Church's doctrine", but if she and her vampires have infiltrated Chalmany so thoroughly, then she probably has.

My next thought is that there's a detail of the game Fire and Ice set up that's not part of the Church doctrine, and that even Tom and Sue wouldn't have known about as eye witnesses to the old Queen. The reborn Queen is not just an Old One, she is an all new being with all the powers of both elves and vampires and none of their weaknesses. The old Queen that Tom and Sue knew was a psycho hell bitch, but no more powerful than anyone else around, so she caused everyone a lot of headaches but wasn't a world-ending disaster. The reborn Queen after the goddesses' cruel game is much more dangerous.

So I guess my earlier statements that Tom and Sue would have known better are wrong. They might still have thought better, having remembered the Queen themselves and not thought that she would be of any help, while maybe Vis just thinks "okay so this person was a dick to everyone in her last life, but I'll be her new mom, and I'll be superpowerful with both Gems, so I'll be able to control her, and she'll know something about the Eldest and be able to help fix this whole mess" but nope, didn't work out that way.

: Also also, about the dream-analysis: how would you distinguish true memories
: of a past life from dreams about someone you've read or heard about?
: Because inevitably they will have to depend on records of such past lives,
: and they can only be sure of memories resembling those. And it's entirely
: possible those records may not be reliable, for one reason or another
: (mistaken report, deliberate falsification, and so on).

: How extensive are the records on Tom and Sue? and how were they compiled?

I'm a little unclear on what you're asking here, but if it helps answer it, I was imagining that all dreams anyone has in their corrupted forms are actually memories of their past lives. There's no such thing as ordinary dreams anymore, but the jumbled mess of memories from different lives are so absurd and random that they're thought of the same way we think of real dreams.

: Also also also,

: - Vis embraces Murdock's father, (hereafter Johnson), conceiving Murdock's
: half-sister, and turning him to an orc
: - Vis gets Johnson to embrace the Elf Queen, conceiving Murdock and turning
: him "human" again
: -Johnson sets out again, and the next time we see him, he's an orc again .

: Is there a third immortal? (I presume that Princess was born by then, and her
: regenerative properties observed, else Vis wouldn't have sent Johnson to
: make another.) If not, why wouldn't Vis go for another immortal?

: In fact, making everyone "beautiful immortals" appears to be her
: end goal, why wouldn't she arrange for dozens of orcs to embrace elves?
: (Under controlled circumstances, probably - Johnson was advised not to go
: out again, after all) She's A-OK with kidnapping the Elf King.

You raise a good point about why Vis doesn't just breed tons of Old Ones herself (or arrange for them to be bred), and I don't have a good answer for that just yet, but one point of clarification meanwhile as I mull that over: "embrace" isn't a euphemism for "have sex with". It's just how I've been describing the vampire's bite and the elf's kiss collectively. They're basically "psychic vampires" in that it's not the actual blood that matters but a magical life-energy magically drained, and the elves have an ability that does the opposite of that, and I just collectively call those two abilities "embraces", for lack of any better term.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 2 3cForrest of B.org 11/22/17 9:54 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 2General-RADIX 11/18/17 6:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 2Forrest of B.org 11/20/17 10:40 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 2General-RADIX 11/20/17 1:51 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Virtuality Immanent: Part 3Forrest of B.org 11/16/17 9:57 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3scratskinner 11/17/17 12:38 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3General-RADIX 11/17/17 7:15 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3VikingBoyBilly 11/17/17 12:35 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3Forrest of B.org 11/17/17 3:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3VikingBoyBilly 11/17/17 6:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3Forrest of B.org 11/17/17 10:05 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Virtuality Immanent: Part 3nevets01 11/17/17 12:46 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       The Chronicles of Quelouva are DONE! (ish)Forrest of B.org 12/29/17 8:31 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: The Chronicles of Quelouva are DONE! (ish)General-RADIX 12/30/17 1:47 a.m.
     some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/9/17 12:29 a.m.
           Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/9/17 8:40 a.m.
                 Re: some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/10/17 2:19 a.m.
                       Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/11/17 9:35 a.m.
                             Re: some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/12/17 5:14 p.m.
                                   Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/12/17 6:24 p.m.
                                         Re: some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/14/17 7:53 p.m.
                                               Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/14/17 10:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/16/17 11:01 a.m.
                                                           Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/16/17 2:56 p.m.
                                                                 Re: some random thoughtsscratskinner 9/17/17 12:13 p.m.
                                                                       Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/18/17 8:10 a.m.
                             Re: some random thoughts 2bscratskinner 9/16/17 9:12 a.m.
                                   Re: some random thoughts 2bForrest of B.org 9/16/17 2:58 p.m.
                                         Re: some random thoughts 2bscratskinner 9/17/17 12:31 p.m.
                                               Re: some random thoughts 2bForrest of B.org 9/18/17 7:41 a.m.
           Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/11/17 3:37 p.m.
           Re: some random thoughtsForrest of B.org 9/14/17 1:55 p.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaGeneral-RADIX 9/11/17 8:02 p.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 9/28/17 9:43 p.m.
           Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 9/30/17 1:11 a.m.
                 Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/2/17 9:56 a.m.
                       Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 10/7/17 12:53 p.m.
                             Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/9/17 3:14 p.m.
                                   Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 10/17/17 6:38 p.m.
                                         Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/17/17 8:23 p.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaTycho 10/22/17 4:14 p.m.
           Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvanevets01 10/23/17 7:42 a.m.
           Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/23/17 10:41 a.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/26/17 10:49 p.m.
           Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 10/27/17 1:34 a.m.
                 Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 10/27/17 8:32 a.m.
     Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED*scratskinner 11/9/17 10:50 p.m.
           Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED*Forrest of B.org 11/10/17 8:39 a.m.
                 Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED*scratskinner 12/21/17 12:48 p.m.
                       noticed you've updated while doing some factchecksscratskinner 12/21/17 2:26 p.m.
                       Re: Virtuality Transcendent: Part 3 *MOVED*Forrest of B.org 12/21/17 3:48 p.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 11/22/17 12:18 p.m.
           Future Perfect expandedForrest of B.org 11/29/17 10:00 p.m.
     Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 12/7/17 9:30 a.m.
           Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaGeneral-RADIX 12/7/17 9:43 a.m.
                 Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 12/7/17 10:24 a.m.
                       Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 12/8/17 7:22 p.m.
                             Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 12/9/17 8:19 a.m.
                                   Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 12/13/17 9:10 a.m.
                                         Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaGeneral-RADIX 12/13/17 3:18 p.m.
                                         Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaYossarian 12/15/17 9:58 p.m.
                                         Re: The Chronicles of Quelouvascratskinner 12/16/17 1:22 p.m.
                                               Re: The Chronicles of QuelouvaForrest of B.org 12/18/17 12:56 p.m.

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