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Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canon
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 1/22/10 7:00 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canon (Silent Knight)


: I haven't picked up Evolutions, so I'll take your word on those examples. The
: expanded fiction shows those no-win situations, yet the games seem to
: gloss over the concept. Even in Halo 1, there was no direct reference to
: the Marines still on Halo when it blew. (Within the game) That sense of
: urgency and the edge is lost in later games. Flood are just enemies, not a
: world/galaxy ending threat...

: The problem with outright victories is that it is an outright victory. It
: seems unrealistic in the climate created by FoR for the the humans to
: annihilate Covenant fleets consistently. There are other ways to win.
: Cloak and dagger tactics, such as distracting the enemy with an orbital
: engagement while Spartans get boots on the ground.

: The forgone conclusion of Johnson on Harvest meant that I couldn't invest in
: the main character. Without that sense that he was putting everything on
: the line, it wasn't enjoyable.

: A good writer will make you connect with the characters, no matter what the
: ending.

: The Human over Covenant victories just seemed a little too numerous to me.
: How do you feel about the Covenant losing their ferociousness?

Two things struck me about the initial Harvest situation. One is that survivors of Harvest may not have been known at the time we learned of the Covenant's message from the system. It took months for communications and ships to get to and from if I recall. If we'd been briefed on Harvest later, perhaps survivors would have been common knowledge.

Secondly, ONI may have covered up any news regarding Harvest and the situation about how many killed and how many survived. There are possible plausible explanations around those events.

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Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 12:15 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonsharpsniper99 1/16/10 12:38 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonVincent 1/16/10 1:09 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/16/10 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/17/10 1:08 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canoniMonkey777 1/16/10 1:09 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSPARTAN-034 1/16/10 1:39 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDani 1/16/10 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:24 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:08 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/16/10 1:34 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 2:16 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonAladelAngel 1/16/10 2:55 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 2:57 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:11 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 3:47 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonAladelAngel 1/16/10 3:45 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDEEP NNN 1/16/10 5:30 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/17/10 5:56 a.m.
     Halo suffers like Star WarsRiceatron 1/16/10 6:12 p.m.
           Re: Halo suffers like Star Warsurk 1/16/10 7:12 p.m.
                 Biased Source is Biased! *NM*Riceatron 1/16/10 7:22 p.m.
                       Re: Biased Source is Biased!urk 1/16/10 7:32 p.m.
                             Pah!Stuntmutt 1/17/10 3:40 a.m.
                                   No sir...stan 1/17/10 12:30 p.m.
           Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/17/10 12:35 a.m.
                 Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/17/10 10:50 a.m.
                       Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMetalingus627 1/17/10 4:57 p.m.
                             Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/17/10 8:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsRagashingo 1/17/10 10:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsBry 1/18/10 4:39 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/19/10 4:03 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDax01 1/16/10 7:46 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/16/10 8:11 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/17/10 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonscarab 1/17/10 5:16 a.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/17/10 5:51 a.m.
                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonVincent 1/17/10 7:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/18/10 1:19 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 6:37 a.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 6:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canongspawn 1/18/10 10:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 11:19 a.m.
                                                     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/18/10 11:35 a.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 1:42 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/18/10 2:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSonofMacPhisto 1/18/10 3:29 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 6:24 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/19/10 9:25 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/19/10 4:13 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/19/10 5:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/19/10 3:56 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 4:31 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonWildcard Tim 1/17/10 10:07 a.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/17/10 10:46 a.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDax01 1/17/10 9:31 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/21/10 12:31 p.m.
                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMetalingus627 1/21/10 1:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/21/10 3:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/21/10 4:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/21/10 5:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/21/10 8:41 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/21/10 10:30 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/22/10 5:47 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/22/10 6:36 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/22/10 7:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonHikaru-119 1/21/10 8:05 p.m.
                             Narrative StructureNarcogen 1/21/10 10:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Narrative Structureresplendentvole 1/22/10 12:33 a.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonYNation913 1/17/10 11:11 a.m.
           *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 5:03 p.m.
                 Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 5:04 p.m.
                 Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*YNation913 1/17/10 6:34 p.m.
                       Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 7:20 p.m.
                             Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*InnerRayg 1/17/10 8:20 p.m.
                             Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*YNation913 1/18/10 8:10 a.m.
                                   Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/18/10 4:18 p.m.
     Well there's your problem right there...stan 1/17/10 11:28 a.m.
           Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/17/10 8:08 p.m.
           Re: Well there's your problem right there...ThorsHammer 1/18/10 10:08 a.m.
                 Re: Well there's your problem right there...Cody Miller 1/18/10 4:39 p.m.
                       ^ This *NM*SonofMacPhisto 1/18/10 6:12 p.m.
                       Re: Well there's your problem right there...Narcogen 1/19/10 1:05 a.m.
                             Re: Well there's your problem right there...Silent Knight 1/19/10 6:35 a.m.
                                   Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/19/10 4:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Well there's your problem right there...Silent Knight 1/20/10 2:37 a.m.
                             Re: Well there's your problem right there...Mercury 1/19/10 8:40 a.m.
                       Re: Well there's your problem right there...ThorsHammer 1/19/10 8:53 a.m.
                 Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/19/10 4:25 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonArchilen 1/19/10 3:55 a.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/19/10 6:53 a.m.



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