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Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canon
Posted By: Leisandir <joecooperstein@hotmail.com>Date: 1/22/10 6:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canon (Silent Knight)


: I haven't picked up Evolutions, so I'll take your word on those examples. The
: expanded fiction shows those no-win situations, yet the games seem to
: gloss over the concept. Even in Halo 1, there was no direct reference to
: the Marines still on Halo when it blew. (Within the game) That sense of
: urgency and the edge is lost in later games. Flood are just enemies, not a
: world/galaxy ending threat...

: The problem with outright victories is that it is an outright victory. It
: seems unrealistic in the climate created by FoR for the the humans to
: annihilate Covenant fleets consistently. There are other ways to win.
: Cloak and dagger tactics, such as distracting the enemy with an orbital
: engagement while Spartans get boots on the ground.

: The forgone conclusion of Johnson on Harvest meant that I couldn't invest in
: the main character. Without that sense that he was putting everything on
: the line, it wasn't enjoyable.

: A good writer will make you connect with the characters, no matter what the
: ending.

: The Human over Covenant victories just seemed a little too numerous to me.
: How do you feel about the Covenant losing their ferociousness?

I was upset by Harvest on my first read-through; the number of human survivors bothered me quite a bit, since it was played in Fall of Reach as a massive defeat. The number of refugees from the planet is the sort of info that has no reason to be classified, so that's no excuse for not telling Halsey and the Spartans. I had a small problem with the inclusion of the Brutes, but I quickly got over that. I had absolutely NO problem with the battle scenes; the Brutes were sufficiently terrifying against the Marines (more specifically, their casualties on the ground were nearly nil) and the only reason that the humans were able to do anything successfully was the element of surprise and the help of an A.I.


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Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 12:15 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonsharpsniper99 1/16/10 12:38 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonVincent 1/16/10 1:09 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/16/10 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/17/10 1:08 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canoniMonkey777 1/16/10 1:09 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSPARTAN-034 1/16/10 1:39 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDani 1/16/10 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:24 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:08 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/16/10 1:34 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 2:16 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonAladelAngel 1/16/10 2:55 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 2:57 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/16/10 3:11 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonCaptain Spark 1/16/10 3:47 p.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonAladelAngel 1/16/10 3:45 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDEEP NNN 1/16/10 5:30 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/17/10 5:56 a.m.
     Halo suffers like Star WarsRiceatron 1/16/10 6:12 p.m.
           Re: Halo suffers like Star Warsurk 1/16/10 7:12 p.m.
                 Biased Source is Biased! *NM*Riceatron 1/16/10 7:22 p.m.
                       Re: Biased Source is Biased!urk 1/16/10 7:32 p.m.
                             Pah!Stuntmutt 1/17/10 3:40 a.m.
                                   No sir...stan 1/17/10 12:30 p.m.
           Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/17/10 12:35 a.m.
                 Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/17/10 10:50 a.m.
                       Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMetalingus627 1/17/10 4:57 p.m.
                             Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/17/10 8:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsRagashingo 1/17/10 10:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsBry 1/18/10 4:39 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo suffers like Star WarsMartin Duffy 1/19/10 4:03 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDax01 1/16/10 7:46 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/16/10 8:11 p.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/17/10 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonscarab 1/17/10 5:16 a.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/17/10 5:51 a.m.
                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonVincent 1/17/10 7:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/18/10 1:19 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 6:37 a.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 6:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canongspawn 1/18/10 10:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 11:19 a.m.
                                                     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/18/10 11:35 a.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/18/10 1:42 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/18/10 2:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSonofMacPhisto 1/18/10 3:29 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 6:24 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/19/10 9:25 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/19/10 4:13 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/19/10 5:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/19/10 3:56 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/19/10 4:31 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonWildcard Tim 1/17/10 10:07 a.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/17/10 10:46 a.m.
                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonDax01 1/17/10 9:31 p.m.
                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/21/10 12:31 p.m.
                             Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMetalingus627 1/21/10 1:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/21/10 3:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonMartin Duffy 1/21/10 4:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/21/10 5:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/21/10 8:41 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonBry 1/21/10 10:30 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonSilent Knight 1/22/10 5:47 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonLeisandir 1/22/10 6:36 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/22/10 7:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonHikaru-119 1/21/10 8:05 p.m.
                             Narrative StructureNarcogen 1/21/10 10:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Narrative Structureresplendentvole 1/22/10 12:33 a.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonYNation913 1/17/10 11:11 a.m.
           *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 5:03 p.m.
                 Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 5:04 p.m.
                 Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*YNation913 1/17/10 6:34 p.m.
                       Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/17/10 7:20 p.m.
                             Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*InnerRayg 1/17/10 8:20 p.m.
                             Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*YNation913 1/18/10 8:10 a.m.
                                   Re: *Evolutions spoils!!!*Metalingus627 1/18/10 4:18 p.m.
     Well there's your problem right there...stan 1/17/10 11:28 a.m.
           Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/17/10 8:08 p.m.
           Re: Well there's your problem right there...ThorsHammer 1/18/10 10:08 a.m.
                 Re: Well there's your problem right there...Cody Miller 1/18/10 4:39 p.m.
                       ^ This *NM*SonofMacPhisto 1/18/10 6:12 p.m.
                       Re: Well there's your problem right there...Narcogen 1/19/10 1:05 a.m.
                             Re: Well there's your problem right there...Silent Knight 1/19/10 6:35 a.m.
                                   Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/19/10 4:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Well there's your problem right there...Silent Knight 1/20/10 2:37 a.m.
                             Re: Well there's your problem right there...Mercury 1/19/10 8:40 a.m.
                       Re: Well there's your problem right there...ThorsHammer 1/19/10 8:53 a.m.
                 Re: Well there's your problem right there...Martin Duffy 1/19/10 4:25 p.m.
     Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonArchilen 1/19/10 3:55 a.m.
           Re: Halo's skitzophrenic canonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/19/10 6:53 a.m.



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