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Thoughts & observations.
Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com>Date: 1/14/10 7:09 p.m.

In Response To: GI discussion (spoilers) (rolandk73)


I'm a little late to this party, but I thought I'd add my own two cents. There's some interesting info in there, some of which confirms certain information given by a certain internets personage who shares the same name as RATM's guitarist.

First the good:


  • Elites are back. We knew this already of course, but I'm glad to see them back. The Brutes will not be missed.

  • SEMI-AUTO BR!!! WOOO!!! The Designated Marksman Rifle. A new semi-auto rifle, which will hopefully function very similar to the Halo 1 pistol. If it does, all I can say is "finally!"

  • The health system is the same as in Halo 1.

  • The new engine sounds very impressive. From improved graphics to rain effects to Halo 1-style spark effects to better lighting and animation and so on and so forth, Reach could very well be the most impressive-looking game this generation if the new engine works as advertised.

  • Spirits return alongside Phantoms. It'll be interesting to see how they work alongside each other. I also look forward to shooting the bastards down, something I wish I could've done in Halo 1.

  • Larger encounters.

  • Marcus Lehto says "In a lot of ways, were being conscious of the connection between Reach and Halo 1. We're looking back at some of the things we did really well in that first game, and then got lost in Halo 2 & 3." If Lehto is right, then this approach could mean a lot of good things for Reach.

And now the bad (well, not too bad, but still annoying):


  • The game looks nice, but it also looks too brown. To be fair, though, that's just one stage. Hopefully there are a lot of colorful environments to offset this.

  • The Elites look anorexic. Just look at the legs. Minor aesthetic issue, of course, but jeez they look fragile. Hopefully that's just an illusion produced by the angle the screenshot was taken from.

  • Speaking of aesthetics, why is there so little consistency in the character and weapon designs from game to game? The AR looks weird. The sniper rifle now looks more like an AI AWM than an NTW-20. Marines and Covenant once again look quite different. This is by no means a deal-breaker for me, but it is kinda, well, I guess "unnerving" is a good adjective. Maybe it's just because I preferred the Halo 3 designs, plus the new designs are a more radical departure from Halo 3 than Halo 3 was from Halo 2 or Halo 2 was from Halo 1.

  • The Falcon, needle rifle, and Skirmisher Jackals. It's one thing to add new weapons and enemies in sequels, but this being a prequel taking place days before the first game, one has to ask where those things went so suddenly. If they had any bearing on the story, they could be called Ass Pulls. They might be cool, they might work well with gameplay, but their presence doesn't make any goddamn sense.

As for the rest, the new assassination mechanic sounds... new. I'll withold judgement until I see it in action. Of course, there's also some things that just weren't mentioned either at all or with no details. We weren't told how big or open the stages were. We still have no idea how your Spartan teammates fit into gameplay (Are they invicible? Are they useless? Overpowered?). And since this was all about Campaign, we still don't know how armor upgrades work in multiplayer.

http://shadowofthevoid.wordpress.com


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GI discussion (spoilers)rolandk73 1/11/10 12:22 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)rolandk73 1/11/10 12:26 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Blinding 1/11/10 1:02 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)RC Master 1/11/10 12:27 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)The BS Police 1/11/10 12:32 p.m.
           I like what I'm hearing *NM*Vincent 1/11/10 12:48 p.m.
                 Me too. Oh, wow. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 1/11/10 12:59 p.m.
                       Re: Maturity and fan serviceHedgemony 1/11/10 10:57 p.m.
                             Re: Maturity and fan serviceMetalingus627 1/12/10 3:52 a.m.
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                             Re: Maturity and fan servicesharpsniper99 1/12/10 4:10 a.m.
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                 Re: I like what I'm hearingAzo 'Galvat 1/11/10 1:20 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 8:00 p.m.
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           They'll see me coming....Silent Knight 1/12/10 3:14 p.m.
                 Re: They'll see me coming....ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:27 p.m.
                       Re: They'll see me coming....Silent Knight 1/13/10 5:10 a.m.
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                                         Fixed. XDElusiveEagle519 1/13/10 8:33 p.m.
                 Re: They'll see me coming....RC Master 1/13/10 7:38 p.m.
     Firefight NOT confirmed =(rolandk73 1/11/10 12:38 p.m.
           Firefight not within the article's scopeF-Stop Fitzgerald 1/11/10 1:30 p.m.
     You can't even pay to view it online?pete_the_duck 1/11/10 12:42 p.m.
     REMEMBER, NO SCANSrolandk73 1/11/10 12:56 p.m.
           Thats fairGilver 1/11/10 12:58 p.m.
           Weirdpete_the_duck 1/11/10 12:58 p.m.
                 Scans are against the rulesrolandk73 1/11/10 1:00 p.m.
           Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSCody Miller 1/11/10 2:25 p.m.
                 Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSGilver 1/11/10 2:31 p.m.
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                       Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSrolandk73 1/11/10 5:18 p.m.
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                 Re: Everything we have ever asked forJ23 1/11/10 7:09 p.m.
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                                                                                         We're gonna need a clean up, on aisle 3.... *NM*RC Master 1/13/10 8:04 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Vincent 1/11/10 1:33 p.m.
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           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)ArteenEsben 1/11/10 11:19 p.m.
                 Speaking of Plasma Weapons...Metalingus627 1/12/10 3:59 a.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)0postmortem0 1/11/10 2:12 p.m.
           Some more info *sp*sharpsniper99 1/11/10 2:18 p.m.
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                                               Re: Some more info *sp*Louis Wu 1/11/10 3:38 p.m.
                                                     Re: Some more info *sp*Mid7night 1/11/10 3:45 p.m.
                                                           Re: Some more info *sp*0postmortem0 1/11/10 4:56 p.m.
     Having seen it: looks promising *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/11/10 3:19 p.m.
           Re: Having seen it: looks promisingMercury 1/11/10 3:36 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)General Vagueness 1/11/10 3:29 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Louis Wu 1/11/10 3:39 p.m.
                 Re: GI discussion (spoilers)General Vagueness 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Archilen 1/11/10 3:40 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)CaneCutter 1/11/10 4:47 p.m.
                 Re: GI discussion (spoilers)T51b 1/11/10 4:58 p.m.
                       Re: GI discussion (spoilers)CaneCutter 1/11/10 5:05 p.m.
                             Re: GI discussion (spoilers)sharpsniper99 1/11/10 5:15 p.m.
                                   Agreed *NM*CaneCutter 1/11/10 5:19 p.m.
                                   Re: GI discussion (spoilers)T51b 1/11/10 5:30 p.m.
     Gaitsscarab 1/11/10 3:53 p.m.
           True, but . . .cheapLEY 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: True, but . . .scarab 1/12/10 7:32 a.m.
                 Actually (zoology OT)Jillybean 1/12/10 12:22 p.m.
                       Re: Actually (zoology OT)scarab 1/12/10 4:33 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)scarab 1/11/10 3:54 p.m.
     Sky box (lack of)bluerunner 1/11/10 4:05 p.m.
           Re: Sky box (lack of)sharpsniper99 1/11/10 4:16 p.m.
           Re: Sky box (lack of)Metalingus627 1/11/10 4:24 p.m.
     Stuff *sp*Metalingus627 1/11/10 4:21 p.m.
           Gigantic retconning?Urban Reflex 1/11/10 4:49 p.m.
                 Re: Gigantic retconning?Mercury 1/11/10 5:00 p.m.
                       Re: Gigantic retconning?T51b 1/11/10 5:06 p.m.
                             Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 5:16 p.m.
                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?T51b 1/11/10 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 5:27 p.m.
                                               Re: Gigantic retconning?0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 8:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: Gigantic retconning?Gilver 1/11/10 9:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 9:34 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Gigantic retconning?Gilver 1/11/10 9:40 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Gigantic retconning?DarkS7G 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?gspawn 1/11/10 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Gigantic retconning?Ragashingo 1/11/10 10:51 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/12/10 10:41 a.m.
           Also this:Metalingus627 1/11/10 6:00 p.m.
     Funny how they've gone full circle.SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 4:26 p.m.
           Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Minime637 1/11/10 4:45 p.m.
                 Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:02 p.m.
                       Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Mercury 1/11/10 5:07 p.m.
                             Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:12 p.m.
                       Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Metalingus627 1/11/10 5:56 p.m.
           SkirmishersShortRoundMcfly 1/11/10 6:21 p.m.
     Very subtle bungiechargeorge 1/11/10 6:32 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungieMetalingus627 1/11/10 6:36 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungieT51b 1/11/10 6:37 p.m.
                 Re: Very subtle bungieJ23 1/11/10 7:19 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungiecrzymnky069 1/11/10 11:15 p.m.
     Am I the only one...Aglor 1/11/10 6:51 p.m.
           Re: Am I the only one...Hedgemony 1/11/10 7:19 p.m.
                 Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/11/10 7:20 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Gilver 1/11/10 7:42 p.m.
                 Re: Am I the only one...Aglor 1/11/10 7:57 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Mercury 1/11/10 8:49 p.m.
                             Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/11/10 9:45 p.m.
                                   Bravo! *NM*Speedhuntr 1/11/10 9:59 p.m.
                                   *awkward slow clapping*AngelicLionheart 1/11/10 10:42 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...0postmortem0 1/12/10 12:32 a.m.
                                   wow *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/12/10 1:24 a.m.
                                         Re: wowMetalingus627 1/12/10 4:09 a.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Louis Wu 1/12/10 7:43 a.m.
                                   Waits for the movie version.....RC Master 1/12/10 9:47 a.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...General Vagueness 1/12/10 10:47 a.m.
                                         Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/12/10 11:16 a.m.
                                               Re: Am I the only one...bluerunner 1/12/10 12:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Am I the only one...SonofMacPhisto 1/12/10 2:09 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Crucio 1/13/10 11:55 a.m.
                             Re: Am I the only one...Aglor 1/12/10 3:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Mercury 1/12/10 3:49 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Hedgemony 1/11/10 10:43 p.m.
     Typical...Crackshot53 1/11/10 7:43 p.m.
           Re: Typical...Minime637 1/11/10 8:03 p.m.
     Hey Urk, question. (Forgive me if old)SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 7:55 p.m.
     Everything but the Grunts.Wildcard Tim 1/11/10 8:29 p.m.
           Why not?Leisandir 1/11/10 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: Why not?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/10 6:26 a.m.
                       Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 7:23 a.m.
                             Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 9:06 a.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 10:16 a.m.
                                         Re: Why not?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/10 11:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Why not?Archilen 1/12/10 11:27 a.m.
                                               Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 1:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 2:16 p.m.
                                                           Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 2:48 p.m.
                                                           Thank you!ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:39 p.m.
                                               Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 1:33 p.m.
                       Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 1:15 p.m.
                             Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 1:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Archilen 1/12/10 1:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 1:40 p.m.
                                         Ok...I saw this suggestedGilver 1/12/10 1:45 p.m.
                                               Re: Ok...I saw this suggestedLeisandir 1/12/10 2:51 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ok...I saw this suggestedGilver 1/12/10 3:29 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 2:00 p.m.
     Everything but the Grunts.Wildcard Tim 1/11/10 8:31 p.m.
     I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but...Pebbles 1/11/10 10:55 p.m.
           Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..DHalo 1/11/10 11:03 p.m.
           Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Ragashingo 1/12/10 12:50 a.m.
                 Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..DarkS7G 1/12/10 3:09 a.m.
                       Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Vincent 1/12/10 3:56 a.m.
                             Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Grimlock 1/12/10 4:58 a.m.
                                   Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Schedonnardus 1/12/10 9:56 a.m.
     I'm gonna miss the pelicans :( i loved those *NM*crzymnky069 1/11/10 11:18 p.m.
           *Falcons inbound* has a nice ring to it though :D *NM*Pebbles 1/11/10 11:47 p.m.
           I wouldn't rule it out yet! :) *NM*ElusiveEagle519 1/11/10 11:58 p.m.
     I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of salt..The BS Police 1/11/10 11:57 p.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of saTDSpiral 1/12/10 1:14 a.m.
           ^ this *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/12/10 1:50 a.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of saCody Miller 1/12/10 9:42 a.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of savlad3163 1/12/10 9:43 a.m.
                 ^^^^Thisrolandk73 1/12/10 3:48 p.m.
     Noble 6 and EmileRosco-128 1/12/10 9:00 p.m.
           Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/12/10 9:11 p.m.
                 Re: Noble 6 and EmileSonofMacPhisto 1/13/10 8:38 a.m.
                       Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 11:20 a.m.
                             Re: Noble 6 and EmileAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 1/13/10 3:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 3:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Noble 6 and EmileRosco-128 1/13/10 10:27 p.m.
                                               Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 10:39 p.m.
                       Re: Noble 6 and EmileMid7night 1/13/10 11:55 a.m.
           Re: Noble 6 and EmileSonofMacPhisto 1/13/10 8:37 a.m.
                 Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 11:21 a.m.
           Still Wilson to me. :p *NM*Mercury 1/13/10 9:16 a.m.
                 Ghost. *NM*BlueNinja 1/13/10 3:11 p.m.
           I keep thinking of Remy's bro from Ratatouille *NM*gunluva 1/13/10 9:11 p.m.
                 Me too...Gilver 1/13/10 9:31 p.m.
     Thoughts & observations.Gravemind 1/14/10 7:09 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.ArteenEsben 1/14/10 9:05 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Gravemind 1/16/10 12:28 a.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Leisandir 1/16/10 8:25 a.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.DarkS7G 1/14/10 9:25 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.serpx 1/14/10 9:29 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Gilver 1/14/10 9:49 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Rosco-128 1/14/10 10:04 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/14/10 11:02 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.zofinda 1/14/10 11:04 p.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Dani 1/14/10 11:40 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Ragashingo 1/14/10 11:43 p.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/15/10 6:31 a.m.
                             Re: Thoughts & observations.Rosco-128 1/15/10 6:36 a.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Dax01 1/15/10 5:22 a.m.
           Spirits are back, but at what size?onebitrocket 1/15/10 7:08 a.m.
                 Re: Spirits are back, but at what size?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/15/10 8:15 a.m.
                       Re: Spirits are back, but at what size?PharaohsRaiment 1/15/10 9:20 a.m.



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