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Re: Why not?
Posted By: BryDate: 1/12/10 1:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Why not? (Archilen)


: Nylund says in the acknowledgments of GoO that Brian Jarrard, Rob McLees,
: Frank O'Connor, and Joseph Staten "helped develop the story and
: checked every nuance of the manuscript more times than [he] can
: count."

: While it was not directly Bungie's work, it was all approved and checked by
: them. Not really just "someone else's". If there was something
: there they didn't like, they could've just told Nylund to remove it.

Perhaps, though it is hardly unheard of for Bungie to decide to change things that they themselves have established, The "why's" don't really make much difference at the end of the day.

At this point one has realised that if you crave a perfectly consistent universe, then the Halo one just might not be the one to follow.
That's just the way its always been really, but its becoming more apparent as more and more material is established and the far greater potential for clashes.
Still, its a bit late in the day to still get upset over every little thing.

I've been watching more and more friends lose their passion for the Halo universe (and even the games as games) because they are unhappy with new question marks and apparent new inconsistencies popping up, and that's pretty sad for me to watch.
When things start to bother you so much and so often, its going to affect your love for it. As it happens, the friends that still feel the greatest attachment to the universe are those that have not read the two latest novels, any of the comics, did not watch Legends and know next to nothing about Reach.
Ignorance can indeed be bliss.
( That said, I don't really know much about Reach 'either. My modem died on Jan 1 and its taken 12 days to get Virgin Media off their arses and get me back online).

I used to track and follow every little detail, but relaxing that just a tiny little bit and allowing wiggle room for all material seems to be helping me stay away from getting grumpy about it all.

Heh, instead I'm getting grumpy at those getting grumpy.

Ode to Joyous Flight HD



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GI discussion (spoilers)rolandk73 1/11/10 12:22 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)rolandk73 1/11/10 12:26 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Blinding 1/11/10 1:02 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)RC Master 1/11/10 12:27 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)The BS Police 1/11/10 12:32 p.m.
           I like what I'm hearing *NM*Vincent 1/11/10 12:48 p.m.
                 Me too. Oh, wow. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 1/11/10 12:59 p.m.
                       Re: Maturity and fan serviceHedgemony 1/11/10 10:57 p.m.
                             Re: Maturity and fan serviceMetalingus627 1/12/10 3:52 a.m.
                                   Re: Maturity and fan serviceArchilen 1/12/10 4:46 a.m.
                                         Ranks and NamesSchedonnardus 1/12/10 9:33 a.m.
                             Re: Maturity and fan servicesharpsniper99 1/12/10 4:10 a.m.
                             Re: Maturity and fan serviceJillybean 1/12/10 11:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Maturity and fan serviceSonofMacPhisto 1/12/10 12:09 p.m.
                                   Re: Maturity and fan serviceNarcogen 1/13/10 3:25 a.m.
                 Re: I like what I'm hearingAzo 'Galvat 1/11/10 1:20 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 8:00 p.m.
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     They'll never see me coming....RC Master 1/11/10 12:34 p.m.
           They'll probably see meJillybean 1/12/10 11:42 a.m.
                 Re: They'll probably see mebluerunner 1/12/10 12:16 p.m.
                       Re: They'll probably see meJillybean 1/12/10 12:19 p.m.
                             Re: They'll probably see mebluerunner 1/12/10 12:20 p.m.
                 Don't worry, you're invisible, you get extra time *NM*RC Master 1/13/10 7:59 p.m.
           They'll see me coming....Silent Knight 1/12/10 3:14 p.m.
                 Re: They'll see me coming....ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:27 p.m.
                       Re: They'll see me coming....Silent Knight 1/13/10 5:10 a.m.
                             Re: They'll see me coming....ElusiveEagle519 1/13/10 2:41 p.m.
                                   Re: They'll see me coming....Silent Knight 1/13/10 3:20 p.m.
                                         Fixed. XDElusiveEagle519 1/13/10 8:33 p.m.
                 Re: They'll see me coming....RC Master 1/13/10 7:38 p.m.
     Firefight NOT confirmed =(rolandk73 1/11/10 12:38 p.m.
           Firefight not within the article's scopeF-Stop Fitzgerald 1/11/10 1:30 p.m.
     You can't even pay to view it online?pete_the_duck 1/11/10 12:42 p.m.
     REMEMBER, NO SCANSrolandk73 1/11/10 12:56 p.m.
           Thats fairGilver 1/11/10 12:58 p.m.
           Weirdpete_the_duck 1/11/10 12:58 p.m.
                 Scans are against the rulesrolandk73 1/11/10 1:00 p.m.
           Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSCody Miller 1/11/10 2:25 p.m.
                 Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSGilver 1/11/10 2:31 p.m.
                       Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANS0postmortem0 1/11/10 2:34 p.m.
                             Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANS0postmortem0 1/11/10 2:35 p.m.
                                   Grr... can't find them. *NM*GrimBrother One 1/11/10 2:40 p.m.
                                         Pity...Gilver 1/11/10 2:46 p.m.
                 Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSHawaiian Pig 1/11/10 3:21 p.m.
                       Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSrolandk73 1/11/10 5:18 p.m.
                 Re: REMEMBER, NO SCANSMetalingus627 1/11/10 3:25 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Archilen 1/11/10 1:02 p.m.
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           Re: Everything we have ever asked forGeneral Vagueness 1/11/10 3:34 p.m.
                 Re: Everything we have ever asked forMercury 1/11/10 3:37 p.m.
                 Re: Everything we have ever asked forJ23 1/11/10 7:09 p.m.
                       Re: Everything we have ever asked forgspawn 1/11/10 9:47 p.m.
                             Grunts always spoke english thoughSchedonnardus 1/12/10 9:38 a.m.
                                   Re: Grunts always spoke english thoughMetalingus627 1/12/10 4:28 p.m.
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           I want a pony. *NM*urk 1/11/10 10:16 p.m.
                 Ponies confirmed in Reach. *NM*AngelicLionheart 1/11/10 10:18 p.m.
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                 Re: Everything we have ever asked forDHalo 1/11/10 11:01 p.m.
                       Re: Everything we have ever asked forHikaru-119 1/11/10 11:03 p.m.
                             Re: Everything we have ever asked forStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/10 6:29 a.m.
                                   Re: Everything we have ever asked forMercury 1/12/10 9:26 a.m.
                                   Re: Everything we have ever asked forGilver 1/12/10 1:38 p.m.
                                         Re: Everything we have ever asked forLeisandir 1/12/10 2:45 p.m.
                                               Re: Everything we have ever asked forMercury 1/12/10 3:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: Everything we have ever asked forbluerunner 1/12/10 3:33 p.m.
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                                                     Re: Everything we have ever asked forGilver 1/12/10 3:47 p.m.
                                         One correction:ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:34 p.m.
                                               Re: One correction:bluerunner 1/12/10 3:42 p.m.
                                                     Re: One correction:ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:44 p.m.
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                                                                 Face it people.BlueNinja 1/12/10 4:18 p.m.
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                                                                             Re: Face it people.Gilver 1/12/10 5:33 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Face it people.bluerunner 1/12/10 11:31 p.m.
                                                                                         We're gonna need a clean up, on aisle 3.... *NM*RC Master 1/13/10 8:04 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Vincent 1/11/10 1:33 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Gilver 1/11/10 1:45 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)DarkS7G 1/11/10 1:51 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)ArteenEsben 1/11/10 11:19 p.m.
                 Speaking of Plasma Weapons...Metalingus627 1/12/10 3:59 a.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)0postmortem0 1/11/10 2:12 p.m.
           Some more info *sp*sharpsniper99 1/11/10 2:18 p.m.
                 Re: Some more info *sp*BlueNinja 1/11/10 2:33 p.m.
                       Re: Some more info *sp*DarkS7G 1/11/10 2:36 p.m.
                             Re: Some more info *sp*SNobleJr 1/11/10 2:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Some more info *sp*0postmortem0 1/11/10 2:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Some more info *sp*BlueNinja 1/11/10 2:58 p.m.
                                               Re: Some more info *sp*Gilver 1/11/10 3:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Some more info *sp*RC Master 1/11/10 3:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Some more info *sp*Louis Wu 1/11/10 3:38 p.m.
                                                     Re: Some more info *sp*Mid7night 1/11/10 3:45 p.m.
                                                           Re: Some more info *sp*0postmortem0 1/11/10 4:56 p.m.
     Having seen it: looks promising *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/11/10 3:19 p.m.
           Re: Having seen it: looks promisingMercury 1/11/10 3:36 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)General Vagueness 1/11/10 3:29 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Louis Wu 1/11/10 3:39 p.m.
                 Re: GI discussion (spoilers)General Vagueness 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)Archilen 1/11/10 3:40 p.m.
           Re: GI discussion (spoilers)CaneCutter 1/11/10 4:47 p.m.
                 Re: GI discussion (spoilers)T51b 1/11/10 4:58 p.m.
                       Re: GI discussion (spoilers)CaneCutter 1/11/10 5:05 p.m.
                             Re: GI discussion (spoilers)sharpsniper99 1/11/10 5:15 p.m.
                                   Agreed *NM*CaneCutter 1/11/10 5:19 p.m.
                                   Re: GI discussion (spoilers)T51b 1/11/10 5:30 p.m.
     Gaitsscarab 1/11/10 3:53 p.m.
           True, but . . .cheapLEY 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: True, but . . .scarab 1/12/10 7:32 a.m.
                 Actually (zoology OT)Jillybean 1/12/10 12:22 p.m.
                       Re: Actually (zoology OT)scarab 1/12/10 4:33 p.m.
     Re: GI discussion (spoilers)scarab 1/11/10 3:54 p.m.
     Sky box (lack of)bluerunner 1/11/10 4:05 p.m.
           Re: Sky box (lack of)sharpsniper99 1/11/10 4:16 p.m.
           Re: Sky box (lack of)Metalingus627 1/11/10 4:24 p.m.
     Stuff *sp*Metalingus627 1/11/10 4:21 p.m.
           Gigantic retconning?Urban Reflex 1/11/10 4:49 p.m.
                 Re: Gigantic retconning?Mercury 1/11/10 5:00 p.m.
                       Re: Gigantic retconning?T51b 1/11/10 5:06 p.m.
                             Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 5:16 p.m.
                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?T51b 1/11/10 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 5:27 p.m.
                                               Re: Gigantic retconning?0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 8:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: Gigantic retconning?Gilver 1/11/10 9:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/11/10 9:34 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Gigantic retconning?Gilver 1/11/10 9:40 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Gigantic retconning?DarkS7G 1/11/10 9:44 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?gspawn 1/11/10 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Gigantic retconning?Ragashingo 1/11/10 10:51 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Gigantic retconning?MasterNoob 1/12/10 10:41 a.m.
           Also this:Metalingus627 1/11/10 6:00 p.m.
     Funny how they've gone full circle.SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 4:26 p.m.
           Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Minime637 1/11/10 4:45 p.m.
                 Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:02 p.m.
                       Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Mercury 1/11/10 5:07 p.m.
                             Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!0postmortem0 1/11/10 5:12 p.m.
                       Re: Covenant speaking in native toungue=WIN!Metalingus627 1/11/10 5:56 p.m.
           SkirmishersShortRoundMcfly 1/11/10 6:21 p.m.
     Very subtle bungiechargeorge 1/11/10 6:32 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungieMetalingus627 1/11/10 6:36 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungieT51b 1/11/10 6:37 p.m.
                 Re: Very subtle bungieJ23 1/11/10 7:19 p.m.
           Re: Very subtle bungiecrzymnky069 1/11/10 11:15 p.m.
     Am I the only one...Aglor 1/11/10 6:51 p.m.
           Re: Am I the only one...Hedgemony 1/11/10 7:19 p.m.
                 Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/11/10 7:20 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Gilver 1/11/10 7:42 p.m.
                 Re: Am I the only one...Aglor 1/11/10 7:57 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Mercury 1/11/10 8:49 p.m.
                             Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/11/10 9:45 p.m.
                                   Bravo! *NM*Speedhuntr 1/11/10 9:59 p.m.
                                   *awkward slow clapping*AngelicLionheart 1/11/10 10:42 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...0postmortem0 1/12/10 12:32 a.m.
                                   wow *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/12/10 1:24 a.m.
                                         Re: wowMetalingus627 1/12/10 4:09 a.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Louis Wu 1/12/10 7:43 a.m.
                                   Waits for the movie version.....RC Master 1/12/10 9:47 a.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...General Vagueness 1/12/10 10:47 a.m.
                                         Re: Am I the only one...Cody Miller 1/12/10 11:16 a.m.
                                               Re: Am I the only one...bluerunner 1/12/10 12:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Am I the only one...SonofMacPhisto 1/12/10 2:09 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Crucio 1/13/10 11:55 a.m.
                             Re: Am I the only one...Aglor 1/12/10 3:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Am I the only one...Mercury 1/12/10 3:49 p.m.
                       Re: Am I the only one...Hedgemony 1/11/10 10:43 p.m.
     Typical...Crackshot53 1/11/10 7:43 p.m.
           Re: Typical...Minime637 1/11/10 8:03 p.m.
     Hey Urk, question. (Forgive me if old)SPARTAN-034 1/11/10 7:55 p.m.
     Everything but the Grunts.Wildcard Tim 1/11/10 8:29 p.m.
           Why not?Leisandir 1/11/10 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: Why not?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/10 6:26 a.m.
                       Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 7:23 a.m.
                             Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 9:06 a.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 10:16 a.m.
                                         Re: Why not?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/10 11:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Why not?Archilen 1/12/10 11:27 a.m.
                                               Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 1:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 2:16 p.m.
                                                           Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 2:48 p.m.
                                                           Thank you!ElusiveEagle519 1/12/10 3:39 p.m.
                                               Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 1:33 p.m.
                       Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 1:15 p.m.
                             Re: Why not?Leisandir 1/12/10 1:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Archilen 1/12/10 1:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?Bry 1/12/10 1:40 p.m.
                                         Ok...I saw this suggestedGilver 1/12/10 1:45 p.m.
                                               Re: Ok...I saw this suggestedLeisandir 1/12/10 2:51 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ok...I saw this suggestedGilver 1/12/10 3:29 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not?AladelAngel 1/12/10 2:00 p.m.
     Everything but the Grunts.Wildcard Tim 1/11/10 8:31 p.m.
     I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but...Pebbles 1/11/10 10:55 p.m.
           Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..DHalo 1/11/10 11:03 p.m.
           Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Ragashingo 1/12/10 12:50 a.m.
                 Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..DarkS7G 1/12/10 3:09 a.m.
                       Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Vincent 1/12/10 3:56 a.m.
                             Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Grimlock 1/12/10 4:58 a.m.
                                   Re: I believed Halo 3's deployable equipment but..Schedonnardus 1/12/10 9:56 a.m.
     I'm gonna miss the pelicans :( i loved those *NM*crzymnky069 1/11/10 11:18 p.m.
           *Falcons inbound* has a nice ring to it though :D *NM*Pebbles 1/11/10 11:47 p.m.
           I wouldn't rule it out yet! :) *NM*ElusiveEagle519 1/11/10 11:58 p.m.
     I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of salt..The BS Police 1/11/10 11:57 p.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of saTDSpiral 1/12/10 1:14 a.m.
           ^ this *NM*Hawaiian Pig 1/12/10 1:50 a.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of saCody Miller 1/12/10 9:42 a.m.
           Re: I'm still taking soemthings with a grain of savlad3163 1/12/10 9:43 a.m.
                 ^^^^Thisrolandk73 1/12/10 3:48 p.m.
     Noble 6 and EmileRosco-128 1/12/10 9:00 p.m.
           Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/12/10 9:11 p.m.
                 Re: Noble 6 and EmileSonofMacPhisto 1/13/10 8:38 a.m.
                       Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 11:20 a.m.
                             Re: Noble 6 and EmileAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 1/13/10 3:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 3:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Noble 6 and EmileRosco-128 1/13/10 10:27 p.m.
                                               Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 10:39 p.m.
                       Re: Noble 6 and EmileMid7night 1/13/10 11:55 a.m.
           Re: Noble 6 and EmileSonofMacPhisto 1/13/10 8:37 a.m.
                 Re: Noble 6 and EmileGilver 1/13/10 11:21 a.m.
           Still Wilson to me. :p *NM*Mercury 1/13/10 9:16 a.m.
                 Ghost. *NM*BlueNinja 1/13/10 3:11 p.m.
           I keep thinking of Remy's bro from Ratatouille *NM*gunluva 1/13/10 9:11 p.m.
                 Me too...Gilver 1/13/10 9:31 p.m.
     Thoughts & observations.Gravemind 1/14/10 7:09 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.ArteenEsben 1/14/10 9:05 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Gravemind 1/16/10 12:28 a.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Leisandir 1/16/10 8:25 a.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.DarkS7G 1/14/10 9:25 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.serpx 1/14/10 9:29 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Gilver 1/14/10 9:49 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Rosco-128 1/14/10 10:04 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/14/10 11:02 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.zofinda 1/14/10 11:04 p.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Dani 1/14/10 11:40 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts & observations.Ragashingo 1/14/10 11:43 p.m.
                       Re: Thoughts & observations.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/15/10 6:31 a.m.
                             Re: Thoughts & observations.Rosco-128 1/15/10 6:36 a.m.
           Re: Thoughts & observations.Dax01 1/15/10 5:22 a.m.
           Spirits are back, but at what size?onebitrocket 1/15/10 7:08 a.m.
                 Re: Spirits are back, but at what size?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/15/10 8:15 a.m.
                       Re: Spirits are back, but at what size?PharaohsRaiment 1/15/10 9:20 a.m.



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