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Re: Halo: Oni Revisited
Posted By: DeAdLy_cOoKiE <deadly_cookie@yahoo.com>Date: 9/5/01 2:44 p.m.

In Response To: Halo: Oni Revisited (noddy99)

: First, Oni. A game with huge potential, Oni was dumbed down to nab a Teen
: rating for the PS2. Tekken-like flashes, total absence of blood -- in my
: opinion the game was Bungie's biggest mistake. But surely, with Halo, they
: will redeem themselves, as they should have done with Oni while the Bungie
: fanbase was reeling from the whole Microsoft-assimilation shock.

PS2 version was different than the PC/Mac version? I can't remember the PC version having blood. I remember flashy bitmaps. Enjoyued the game nonetheless though.

: But when I saw the Teen rating on Halo, my worst fears sprung from the back
: of my brain and slapped me in the face. Bungie is dumbing down Halo for
: the consoles as well.

: But then my better sense kicked in. Look at Marathon and Myth. Those games
: were of infinitely superior quality to Oni and sported lots of blood and
: guts, realistically and not to the extreme of Soldier of Fortune. Bungie
: wouldn't add colored flashes and invisible blood to Halo, the game
: everyone has been dying to play for more than two years.

I have read about blood spurting or something similar in the updates. I hope they didn't mean that blue graffity on the grass.

: And while I know from the gameplay movies that there are, indeed, no impact
: flashes and there are actually a few splats of blood, I feel that Bungie
: is pushing for a Teen rating for the sole reason that more kids would be
: allowed to buy a cool-looking Teen game than a cool-looking Mature game.

Teen ratings are better suited for movies perhaps, (A movie can looks extremely realistic, a game will always be a game). (I must say I had some nightmares watching 'the thing', but in the end I'm glad I saw the movie when I was 8, it was fun)

: I mean, what else could explain the vast difference between the levels of
: gore in Myth and Halo? What if they had tried to get Myth a Teen rating?
: Say goodbye to having any fun with dwarven grenades or satchel charges,
: because there's no gibbing people around here, it's a family game! Heck,
: wights probably wouldn't even be in the game at all! And that Soulblighter
: fellow, he should wear a mask or something because his skinless face could
: unsettle ten year olds. I can see we may have a hard time encountering a
: villain of Balor's or Soulblighter's stature and bad-assedness in Halo, so
: we can probably hope to see something like Muro in the Covenant ranks.

Did you know that they replace certain $*%&#^ words with beeps in England.
How fun it is watching Die hard over there, THIS is exactly what pisses me off, what angers me.

: In a Teen rated game, you have to make sure your content is not
: objectionable, obviously. That means that you are going to have one hell
: of a time scaring the player shitless, or make a longtime Halo fanboi
: mutter "Awesome." Very few swear words in Teen rated games,
: either. No siree bob, these battle hardened marines on the front lines
: have squeaky clean mouths. "Dang, Johnny, they got me. Those fricking
: sons of biscuits got me cornered in this poophole outnumbered twenty to
: one. Oh, fudge, here they come."

: Don't expect to see me waiting in the virtually nonexistant line for an Xbox.

Hehe, well.. the xbox is okay, if it had a mouse and keyboard.

: This worries... no, alarms me, because ever since I started up my little Halo
: fanboi website two years back, I had vivid dreams of the game. No, really.
: Not playing the game, but being a marine IN the game, only it wasn't a
: game, we were fighting these damned Covies for the ringworld one inch at a
: time. If I blast an unlucky Cov trooper with a 120mm tank shell, he is
: going to explode and his contrails will paint the surrounding terrain. He
: will not fly through the air and slide across the grass, free of blue
: blood.

Yes, Halo supposed to bring realism to your PC no? Grenade soccer can be fun ofcourse. Never tried it in real life.

: I want to scream, "Oh, yeah!" when I detonate a plastic explosive
: on the overturned jeep in the midst of their ranks and watch the closest
: ones reduced to kibble and the outer ones fly through the air and hit a
: tree or a rock, leaving believable plasma behind. I don't want to scream,
: "WTF?" when an explosive throws an enemy against the wall, or
: against a window (like in Oni) and his body merely slides to the floor
: supinely, instead of smashing against the wall or through the window as
: was promised in the BungieVision that came with my copy of Myth II.

The gibbing in Quake3 looks great, or better, Halflife.

: I trust Bungie. I really do. They are without a doubt the finest game
: developer of all, in my opinion (Well, until Oni. Then, Blizzard with its
: flawless track record looks mighty appealing, but its fanbase is mainly
: composed of pre-teens and posers, like Counter-Strike), and I believe that
: Halo will come out the best it could possibly be.

: However... I would kill to see an M rating on the computer version.

What kind of rating would Doom III get, on the xbox? I think it's scary..brrr..


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Replies:

Halo: Oni Revisitednoddy99 9/5/01 1:14 p.m.
     Re: RIGHT ON!!!!!! *NM*Macphisto 9/5/01 2:24 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedMercilessKK 9/5/01 2:29 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDeAdLy_cOoKiE 9/5/01 2:57 p.m.
                 Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedHethal 9/5/01 5:23 p.m.
                       Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDeAdLy_cOoKiE 9/6/01 8:10 a.m.
           what's with you people?gcc -configure 9/5/01 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: what's with you people?Riley 9/5/01 5:49 p.m.
                 Re: what's with you people?noddy99 9/5/01 8:27 p.m.
                       Re: what's with you people?Riley 9/5/01 8:49 p.m.
                       Re: what's with you people?gcc -configure 9/5/01 9:20 p.m.
                       Re: what's with you people?Dan Rudolph 9/5/01 11:45 p.m.
                       Re: what's with you people?vector40 9/5/01 11:52 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDrBill 9/6/01 10:13 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDeAdLy_cOoKiE 9/5/01 2:44 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDarkman 9/5/01 3:22 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni Revisitedvector40 9/5/01 8:32 p.m.
     gameplay doesn't matter, huh?gcc -configure 9/5/01 5:38 p.m.
           Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?Hethal 9/5/01 6:57 p.m.
                 Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?gcc -configure 9/5/01 7:02 p.m.
                       Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?Riley 9/5/01 8:17 p.m.
                             Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?Hethal 9/5/01 8:44 p.m.
                                   Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?gcc -configure 9/5/01 9:14 p.m.
                                         Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?Hethal 9/6/01 4:33 p.m.
                                   Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?ramy 9/6/01 5:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Hey RamyHethal 9/6/01 9:42 p.m.
                                               Re:What does Ramy know ??? :-)Dee 9/7/01 2:04 p.m.
                       Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?Lophan 9/6/01 8:46 a.m.
                             Re: gameplay doesn't matter, huh?gcc -configure 9/6/01 11:58 a.m.
           Re: cool it with the language...Lophan 9/6/01 8:19 a.m.
                 Re: cool it with the language...gcc -configure 9/6/01 12:00 p.m.
                       Re: yuppers!Lophan 9/6/01 1:06 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDan Rudolph 9/5/01 11:35 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni Revisitedvector40 9/5/01 11:55 p.m.
                 Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDan Rudolph 9/6/01 12:04 a.m.
                       Re: Halo: Oni Revisitedvector40 9/6/01 7:16 p.m.
                             Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedDan Rudolph 9/6/01 11:36 p.m.
     Grrrr.Matt 9/6/01 10:41 a.m.
           watch out... he bites!!! *NM*no7orious 9/6/01 1:30 p.m.
           Re: Grrrr.The Tiny Toad 9/6/01 3:14 p.m.
                 Re: Grrrr.Darkman 9/6/01 3:23 p.m.
                       Re: Grrrr.gcc -configure 9/6/01 4:27 p.m.
                 Re: Grrrr.OutSource 9/6/01 3:52 p.m.
                       Re: Grrrr.vector40 9/6/01 7:22 p.m.
                 Why no blood in Oni? Don't overanalyze...Miguel Chavez 9/6/01 4:31 p.m.
                 Allow me...chef 9/6/01 6:25 p.m.
                       Re: Allow me...Louis Wu 9/6/01 8:09 p.m.
                             that's nonsense... i invented electricity...gcc -configure 9/6/01 8:52 p.m.
                                   Aoud mulsere nte qwue...Louis Wu 9/6/01 9:01 p.m.
                             Re: Allow me...vector40 9/7/01 12:00 a.m.
                       i sorta implied that...Miguel Chavez 9/6/01 11:52 p.m.
           Re: Grrrr.OutSource 9/6/01 3:47 p.m.
           Re: Grrrr.vector40 9/6/01 7:18 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni Revisited*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 9/6/01 3:03 p.m.
     Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedForensic 9/6/01 4:29 p.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedSound of Onion 9/7/01 2:37 a.m.
           Re: Halo: Oni RevisitedThamasTah 9/7/01 5:15 a.m.



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