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Re: Musings on the Nathan Interview
Posted By: Shataan <gjen@home.com>Date: 9/26/99 11:45 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Musings on the Nathan Interview (Nathan)

> Nothing would please me more than for you not to notice charred
> armor until three months after you've been playing and then go
> "Damn, that's cool" when you do have a moment to take
> a look around. However, as I said, you can't please all the
> people all the time. And you seem to have disregarded the parts
> of the interview that mentioned the perspective changes and/or
> options we are considered implementing. To be honest, you seem
> to be looking at everything with your "first-person"
> filter on.

if you ve been reading, you ll have noticed I could care less about that old tired argument, and have stated I believe your 3rd person view will be very cool.<---- read again if anyone doesn t get this the first time thru. Please read into this what I m saying not what you think I m saying. When I think of 3rd... I don t concentrate on my "character"... I m thinking the view of my surroundings while in this view, that s the importance to me... the surroundings all around the character I control...that s what I feel is important, not cool effects to my character. I supposed and knew that my post would be turned into a witch hunt yet again, and my point totally missed.

You ve stated "think of the things you d miss or not see as far as my own character"... if we were in 1st person. These things just don t convince me that they are important. My point is.... I know from experience that when I m in the game, after awhile I don t even notice my character, so seeing these things are not important. But... you seem to think they are.

I say.... I hope I m not spending my time looking at my character and all these things you say I ll see, and be wowed by... I hope that s the last thing I m doing. My post was about this one statement you made, I disagree with it... not the end of the world, but what you think is important in this area, I don t.

It s nice all these things to notice about our own character, but would hardly be the end of gaming as we know it, if they weren t there. And don t think I don t care for all the work put into this area, every little thing I ve seen so far oozes quality, I m well aware of this fact.

I myself will indeed be looking at these effects on other characters, but I can tell you now, when I m into a game, the last thing I ll take the time to look at is the char marks on armor I m wearing.

Don t anyone have a cow, you won t be agreed with on every issue here. Rest assured that I m very amazed by what I ve seen of Halo, and think it ll change the way we play. I .. again... just don t agree with your reasoning in this one statement.

And to bring up something as stupid as to turn this again into a 1st/3rd person perspective war, which was never my intent, well ... not much to say about that.

It just rankles the mind, as I did state I think 3rd person will be cool, and very immersive.

I care less now that the game won t be 1st person, I and others here ran the gammut with this argument long ago, and the oath still holds for me. I ve read and re read posts on this, and have said nothing lately, nor replied on them. Talking with Mr Levin, and reading what others had to say has changed my mind on this. So please... feel free not to bring up things like "1st person blinders " in the future, as you are far from right in this area at this time. I hope I ve clarified myself in this area.

I oppologise if I ve not made myself more clear on this. Funny how disagreeing with a small statement, what it can lead to. <S>

> Well, until you have yet to play the game, I'd say it's hard to
> say what exactly you'll be watching. You may NEED to be watching
> your character - or your environment. Who knows what clues as to
> your life (or death) may be there.

> This is especially true in the single-player game. Don't forget
> that this game isn't entirely multi-player - maybe it will be
> for you; but it certainly won't be for others.

> They will be there because they are fun. Period. And, quite
> possibly, very important in how you play the game.

> So now I know what direction I was hit from ... hmmm ...

> This goes far beyond "looking at the scenery", but you
> almost speak as if you've already seen and played the game. I
> can see why this thread created so many problems - some of you
> make an incredible amount of assumptions about things you have
> neither seen nor have been spoken of. As was also mentioned in
> the interview, charred armor is "one tiny example" of
> some of the things that can be created.

> Just because I am not willing to release the full details of a
> game scheduled for next year's release doesn't mean they won't
> be there.

> Well, I certainly wasn't trying to "sell" a single
> individual. Perhaps you'll just have to wait and see. You seem
> so strongly opinionated from the outset that it's obvious you
> will need proof, such as your friend saying "you have to
> play this game". If that's the case, so be it. I don't
> think there's anything I could say that would change your mind
> at this point.

> If that's all you drew out of it, then I'm not sure if you were
> reading the same interview. But to each their own.

> I can tell you this: the game will not be "so
> fast-paced" that you no longer need to think to play - just
> jump around and fire at people's feet. That's not the speed
> we're talking about here. Yes, things will be happening around
> you. It won't be to the point that the person with the fastest
> trigger-finger wins. That ... well, at least to me, isn't a
> whole lot of fun.

> If you have such strong opinions on the subject, I'd wait until
> you see more details before being so judgmental - especially
> about something you're not in the room creating. Everyone has a
> right to their opinion, but I've heard the same thing ad nauseum
> - which is basically ignoring everything positive, while
> latching on to everything that supports your viewpoint.

> Honestly, I don't mean this as an attack, nor do I intend to
> stir up a long discussion on the matter. However, I viewed some
> of your comments as highly biased and quite a bit unfair.

> Nathan

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Replies:

Musings on the Nathan InterviewMark Levin 9/25/99 6:01 p.m.
     Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewShataan 9/26/99 1:26 a.m.
           Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewNathan 9/26/99 3:30 a.m.
                 Some more musings (and suggestions...)mad.max 9/26/99 7:20 a.m.
                       Who's Really in Charge ... ;)Nathan 9/26/99 4:15 p.m.
                             Re: Who's Really in Charge ... ;)Shataan 9/26/99 6:32 p.m.
                             Awwww....mad.max 9/27/99 9:44 a.m.
                                   Re: Awwww....Nathan 9/28/99 12:24 a.m.
                             Re: Who's Really in Charge ... ;)Forensic 9/27/99 12:18 p.m.
                 Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewShataan 9/26/99 11:45 a.m.
                 well i must say....Adeamus [IMG] 9/26/99 11:47 a.m.
                       Re: well i must say....Mr. Eez 9/26/99 4:31 p.m.
                       Re: well i must say....Loren Petrich 9/26/99 5:51 p.m.
                 Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewShataan 9/26/99 12:32 p.m.
                       Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewBen Schodek 9/26/99 2:03 p.m.
                             Re: Musings on the Nathan InterviewShataan 9/26/99 6:25 p.m.



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