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Re: Movie

Posted By: Forrest of B.org Date: 5/21/06 10:04 p.m.
In Response To: Movie (CubicCircle)

: The biggest trick, as I see it, to not ruin it would be how to portray the
: AIs.
: An American audience would be skeptical at best to seeing a movie with alot
: of text in it (born with watching subtitles, I would not). And as soon as
: I would pick a voice for them, it would conflict with someone else's
: vision of how they would sound.
Problems with selecting voice actors aside, one thing that I think would help with a translation of the largely textual medium to the big screen, in keeping with your "suspense and angst" notion (which I very much like), is to have the AIs speak to the player over the Marathon's speaker system instead of just through terminals. That way instead of simply standing there at a terminal reading or listening to Durandal, say in a scene like on "Colony Ship For Sale" with that wonderful three-candles imagery, we would see the player walking or stalking about the ship alone, maybe trying to figure out some problem or another - not the particular inane puzzles of Colony Ship, but something similar where the player has to do a lot of work moving cranes or extending catwalks in order to get somewhere, which can be told entirely visually - while Durandal speaks his haunting words over the loudspeaker. This solves two problems at once, keeping the otherwise boring lonely visual action interesting by accompanying it with what would otherwise be a boring monologue.
The closest cinematic equivalent that I can think of is Dave deactivating HAL in "2001". Dave is doing a lot of stuff that is almost entirely visual, and barely speaking a word himself, while HAL speaks to Dave constantly throughout that scene. It creates a very lonely one-way interaction, one character toiling away with no help from the other, while the other just sits there, watching, and rambles on philosophically.

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Interface & Other Things Nick Hoad 5/21/06 11:11 a.m.

Re: Interface & Other Things Tydeus 5/21/06 3:42 p.m.

Uh... guys? ukimalefu 5/21/06 7:38 p.m.

Movie CubicCircle 5/21/06 9:33 p.m.

Re: Movie Forrest of B.org 5/21/06 10:04 p.m.

Re: Movie thermoplyae 5/21/06 10:49 p.m.

Re: Movie C Lund 5/22/06 1:28 a.m.

Re: Movie CubicCircle 5/22/06 6:45 a.m.

Re: Movie thermoplyae 5/22/06 8:05 a.m.

Re: Movie C Lund 5/22/06 8:37 a.m.

Re: Movie Wail of Suicide 5/22/06 9:55 a.m.

Re: Movie thermoplyae 5/22/06 10:14 a.m.

Re: Movie CubicCircle 5/22/06 10:14 a.m.

Re: Movie NTiOzymandias 5/31/06 2:40 p.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 5/31/06 6:58 p.m.

Re: Movie Wail of Suicide 6/1/06 1:06 a.m.

Re: Movie thermoplyae 6/1/06 8:13 a.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 6/1/06 9:43 a.m.

Re: Movie Wail of Suicide 6/1/06 10:26 p.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 6/2/06 12:48 p.m.

Re: Movie Forrest of B.org 6/1/06 9:12 a.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 6/1/06 9:55 a.m.

Re: Movie Forrest of B.org 6/1/06 4:11 p.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 6/1/06 4:50 p.m.

Re: Movie CubicCircle 6/2/06 5:00 a.m.

Re: Movie John Denton 6/2/06 12:54 p.m.

Re: Movie ukimalefu 6/2/06 10:03 p.m.

Re: Movie CubicCircle 6/2/06 10:21 p.m.

How I'do it reagan64 5/24/06 2:57 p.m.

Re: How I'do it CubicCircle 5/24/06 10:15 p.m.

Good point. Scratch that idea. *NM* reagan64 6/2/06 7:01 a.m.

movie? forget it. fokker 6/4/06 2:58 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. thermoplyae 6/4/06 4:14 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. D-M.A. 6/4/06 6:18 a.m.

You should have spoken up earlier D: *NM* thermoplyae 6/4/06 7:55 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. John Denton 6/4/06 10:34 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. John Denton 6/4/06 10:30 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. Forrest of B.org 6/4/06 9:23 p.m.

Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film? MrAlexZander 6/5/06 11:32 a.m.

Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film? John Denton 6/5/06 12:15 p.m.

Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film? Forrest of B.org 6/5/06 2:22 p.m.

Re: short film The Sullen "D" Button 6/6/06 1:21 a.m.

Re: short film CubicCircle 6/6/06 2:16 a.m.

something unrelated to short films Andrew Nagy 6/7/06 6:09 a.m.

Re: something unrelated to short films John Denton 6/7/06 12:02 p.m.

Re: movie? forget it. Vid Boi 6/6/06 11:18 a.m.

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: Problems with selecting voice actors aside, one thing that I think would help : with a translation of the largely textual medium to the big screen, in : keeping with your "suspense and angst" notion (which I very much : like), is to have the AIs speak to the player over the Marathon's speaker : system instead of just through terminals. That way instead of simply : standing there at a terminal reading or listening to Durandal, say in a : scene like on "Colony Ship For Sale" with that wonderful : three-candles imagery, we would see the player walking or stalking about : the ship alone, maybe trying to figure out some problem or another - not : the particular inane puzzles of Colony Ship, but something similar where : the player has to do a lot of work moving cranes or extending catwalks in : order to get somewhere, which can be told entirely visually - while : Durandal speaks his haunting words over the loudspeaker. This solves two : problems at once, keeping the otherwise boring lonely visual action : interesting by accompanying it with what would otherwise be a boring : monologue. : The closest cinematic equivalent that I can think of is Dave deactivating HAL : in "2001". Dave is doing a lot of stuff that is almost entirely : visual, and barely speaking a word himself, while HAL speaks to Dave : constantly throughout that scene. It creates a very lonely one-way : interaction, one character toiling away with no help from the other, while : the other just sits there, watching, and rambles on philosophically.

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Interface & Other Things	Nick Hoad	5/21/06 11:11 a.m.
Re: Interface & Other Things	Tydeus	5/21/06 3:42 p.m.
Uh... guys?	ukimalefu	5/21/06 7:38 p.m.
Movie	CubicCircle	5/21/06 9:33 p.m.
Re: Movie	Forrest of B.org	5/21/06 10:04 p.m.
Re: Movie	thermoplyae	5/21/06 10:49 p.m.
Re: Movie	C Lund	5/22/06 1:28 a.m.
Re: Movie	CubicCircle	5/22/06 6:45 a.m.
Re: Movie	thermoplyae	5/22/06 8:05 a.m.
Re: Movie	C Lund	5/22/06 8:37 a.m.
Re: Movie	Wail of Suicide	5/22/06 9:55 a.m.
Re: Movie	thermoplyae	5/22/06 10:14 a.m.
Re: Movie	CubicCircle	5/22/06 10:14 a.m.
Re: Movie	NTiOzymandias	5/31/06 2:40 p.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	5/31/06 6:58 p.m.
Re: Movie	Wail of Suicide	6/1/06 1:06 a.m.
Re: Movie	thermoplyae	6/1/06 8:13 a.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	6/1/06 9:43 a.m.
Re: Movie	Wail of Suicide	6/1/06 10:26 p.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	6/2/06 12:48 p.m.
Re: Movie	Forrest of B.org	6/1/06 9:12 a.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	6/1/06 9:55 a.m.
Re: Movie	Forrest of B.org	6/1/06 4:11 p.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	6/1/06 4:50 p.m.
Re: Movie	CubicCircle	6/2/06 5:00 a.m.
Re: Movie	John Denton	6/2/06 12:54 p.m.
Re: Movie	ukimalefu	6/2/06 10:03 p.m.
Re: Movie	CubicCircle	6/2/06 10:21 p.m.
How I'do it	reagan64	5/24/06 2:57 p.m.
Re: How I'do it	CubicCircle	5/24/06 10:15 p.m.
Good point. Scratch that idea. NM	reagan64	6/2/06 7:01 a.m.
movie? forget it.	fokker	6/4/06 2:58 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	thermoplyae	6/4/06 4:14 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	D-M.A.	6/4/06 6:18 a.m.
You should have spoken up earlier D: NM	thermoplyae	6/4/06 7:55 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	John Denton	6/4/06 10:34 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	John Denton	6/4/06 10:30 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	Forrest of B.org	6/4/06 9:23 p.m.
Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film?	MrAlexZander	6/5/06 11:32 a.m.
Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film?	John Denton	6/5/06 12:15 p.m.
Re: movie? forget it. How about a short film?	Forrest of B.org	6/5/06 2:22 p.m.
Re: short film	The Sullen "D" Button	6/6/06 1:21 a.m.
Re: short film	CubicCircle	6/6/06 2:16 a.m.
something unrelated to short films	Andrew Nagy	6/7/06 6:09 a.m.
Re: something unrelated to short films	John Denton	6/7/06 12:02 p.m.
Re: movie? forget it.	Vid Boi	6/6/06 11:18 a.m.



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