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	Re: Argh!
	Posted By: Neoptolemus	Date: 1/28/04 4:16 a.m.
	In Response To: Re: Argh! (Lunair) : Very true, but the thing is, our friend the Mega Class just doesn't have the : raw stopping power of any other weapon in the game (not really sure about : the Alien Weapon, but I think the slow speed of the heat bursts mitigates : its power). If you're good with the AR, you can take out a full-health : (red) enemy marine in probably around a second. SPNKR, obviously real : fast. Flamethrower puts the hurt on quite quickly. If you ignore the : ridiculously-short amount of time the SMG's drum lasts, it's like a : longer-range flamethrower. Shotguns, again ignoring ammo concerns, can do : the Ventilation thang like none other. Even the Fusion Pistol has a : charge-up capability -- and the charged shots do as much damage as the : AR's grenades. And if we go back to M1, the old Alien Weapon was like the : SMG, but with a big ol' magazine. Stop talking about the magnum having terrible stopping power. I really don't give a shit, and other people shouldn't do that either. I'm not accusing you at all, but I wish people would quit switching to weapons that are the most powerful. But see, that's the problem with most multiplayer situations: it barely ever matters about speed or accuracy, or anything else other than power. I really don't understand why power is such a popular concept in guns: so it kills things up close quick. Big deal! What about speed? What about accuracy? What about range? What about ammo capacity? What about everything? : So the Magnum isn't as powerful in a melee. It'll take quite a few shots to : finish off a full-red enemy Marine, and that's just counting the shots : with which you hit. But then, that's the thing. The Magnum, as you've : alluded to, ain't a melee weapon. It's a specialized tool, a sniping : weapon. But the whole game of Marathon isn't conducive to sniping. Again, : as you said, you don't usually find the wide-open arenas that'd be really : good for pitched pistol battles -- the engine frankly doesn't allow it, : what with the limit on sight and number of transparent edges. Any : wide-open-spaces map that'd work outside of Aleph One would either be very : bare or not actually wide open (due to tricks with negative space so there : aren't any glitchy spots on the map; maybe a mapmaker could make it seem : wide open, but it probably wouldn't be). Marathon is all about the dark : corridors of a moon-cum-spaceship, not the headshots from across the map. Actually, you do find quite a bit of wide open areas or long distances in which the magnum proves to be VERY useful. I don't think that the engine doesn't exactly allow it. And you people quit saying that Marathon is consistent of a bunch of dark corridors in a crappy, cramped starship. Sure, there are some corridors, but there are many wide, open rooms in there, there aren't that much corridors. Quit saying that they are cramped. At least the M1 maps don't have cheesy, crappy-varied Ambient Sounds and a bunch of primitive, dorky looking environments. Ha! I'm just playing with you all. : Now, this isn't to say that there aren't a number of situations for which the : Magnum is perfect -- it's just that there are other weapons that are far : more generally applicable and pound-for-pound, second-by-second more : damaging. If you can make the Magnums work for you, more power to ya. And : if those crazy fools continue to be crazy fools, remind them that there's : no accounting for taste. : Also remind them that the Vidmaster Challenge exists for a reason. : Lunair Yes, the magnum have many uses. Really if you want the magnums to give you a HUGE benefit that you thought you'd never receive from using the gun, you have to have a lot of skill and experience with it. Yet again, quit going on and on about how the other guns have better stopping power, "OH! This gun does a shitload of damage, so I'm going to choose it automatically!" and how the magnum has a lack of stopping power. How many times must I tell people that stopping power isn't everything you want in a gun?

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	Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/25/04 6:33 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/25/04 6:38 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Yossarian	1/26/04 6:36 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/27/04 1:14 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Johannes Gunnar	1/27/04 1:58 p.m.
	Who do you play MP with? no message *NM*	Andrew "Document" Nagy	1/27/04 2:52 p.m.
	People online. *NM*	Johannes Gunnar	1/28/04 1:47 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/27/04 7:00 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Lunair	1/27/04 7:33 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/28/04 4:16 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	deathmonger	1/28/04 8:20 a.m.
	Good answer! :-) *NM*	Johannes Gunnar	1/28/04 9:18 a.m.
	Thanks *NM*	deathmonger	1/28/04 11:46 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/29/04 2:51 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	deathmonger	1/29/04 3:42 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Adam Ashwell	1/29/04 3:59 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	deathmonger	1/29/04 6:34 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Lunair	1/29/04 6:53 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Yossarian	1/28/04 9:19 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/29/04 2:40 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Adam Ashwell	1/29/04 2:48 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Yossarian	1/29/04 6:18 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/29/04 6:56 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Lunair	1/29/04 6:18 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	ukimalefu	1/28/04 8:07 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	D-M.A.	1/29/04 12:47 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Neoptolemus	1/29/04 1:33 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	Lunair	1/29/04 5:24 p.m.
	Re: Argh!	the Battle Cat	1/26/04 5:38 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	deathmonger	1/26/04 6:17 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Boomer	1/26/04 9:50 a.m.
	Re: Argh!	Bob-B-Q	1/26/04 2:09 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Yossarian	1/26/04 3:33 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Kommienzuspadt	1/26/04 3:44 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/27/04 5:27 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Elliott	1/26/04 5:44 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Yossarian	1/27/04 5:12 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/27/04 6:15 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	paolo mk IV	1/27/04 8:29 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Adam Ashwell	1/27/04 9:56 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Elliott	1/27/04 11:44 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Aben Zin	1/27/04 11:45 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	paolo mk IV	1/27/04 11:48 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Adam Ashwell	1/28/04 4:00 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Neoptolemus	1/28/04 4:21 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Adam Ashwell	1/28/04 4:44 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/28/04 7:17 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Adam Ashwell	1/28/04 7:34 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Lunair	1/28/04 7:27 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/28/04 7:12 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	paolo mk IV	1/28/04 7:22 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Bob-B-Q	1/28/04 3:23 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/29/04 7:26 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/29/04 7:01 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	D-M.A.	1/29/04 1:00 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	1/29/04 7:14 a.m.
	THIS IS THE BEST WEAPON EVER!!! ;-p *NM*	ukimalefu	1/29/04 5:29 p.m.
	Re: THIS IS THE BEST WEAPON EVER!!! ;-p	ukimalefu	1/29/04 8:13 p.m.
	Re: THIS IS THE BEST WEAPON EVER!!! ;-p	the Battle Cat	1/30/04 6:02 a.m.
	Re: THIS IS THE BEST WEAPON EVER!!! ;-p	Bob-B-Q	1/31/04 5:57 a.m.
	red X *NM*	Andrew Nagy	12/3/04 1:36 p.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	Elliott	1/31/04 8:22 a.m.
	Re: Argh! + shotgun musings	the Battle Cat	2/1/04 7:39 a.m.

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