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Re: You get what you pay for, Forrest
Posted By: NicholaiDate: 2/23/05 6:45 p.m.

In Response To: Re: You get what you pay for (Tyler)

: Yeah, to make Marathon more modern we would need a newer engine. But thered
: be nothing wrong with increasing the poly-count, the viewing range, or
: even a bridge on AO. In the end, we wouldn't be able to make money off of
: AO. Its Open Source.

: Bridges would make the game a bit cooler. Maybe if someone were to make Forge
: for OSX, and maybe import a few new features so we could level the
: cielings and floors enough to make a bridges. In effect, also making cool
: new wall features (panels sticking out rather than being far in the wall,
: possible folating stairs..ooOOoo)

Ok Forrest, your points are strong, but I still don't completely agree with you... if devs had started AO project with this kind of attitude about not improving the engine 'cos it is old and it would be better to pick another engine to port Marathon, we wouldn't have OpenGL powered effects, MML or Pfhortran/Lua or internet multiplayer games.

Cool features like file linking(you can link two map files, shapes, sounds, etc.. without changing the preferences, like if you finish m1a1 and immediatly you start m2 without having to quit the game) could be done to enhace AO, swinging doors and horizontal moving plattaforms(like those on Damage Incorporated) could be also done to give the scenario makers more options. Prime Target, another game with the m2 engine had a particle system, and even blood splats on the walls, it also had more interactive scenography; you could move object like chairs, and use them as a cover for the bullets. I think that all those enhacements could be done to make sweeter the experience of playing Marathon and its scenarios, and I think that they aren't so hard to implement to AO (if it could be done on the other m2 engine games with software rendering), but for some reason, community is so obstinate in not to implement them... believe me if knew how to code'em I would do it and because I do really have interest in improving AO, I'll send missives to coder and developers, just to find someone with enough free time and will to implement those.

I'm making a scenario, and the reason I chose Marathon, was because it is easier to modify than the newer engines, it is a looooooooooooooooot better than other 2.5 d engines, like doom engine, and it has support for story-line, differently from the build engine that offers more capabilities than Marathon engine, but reason I didn't chose this one was because it is not as fun as Marathon, and I just love Marathon... Doom 3, Half Life 2, Unreal, and other engines(Halo being the exception) aren't just as fun as Marathon (IMHO)

And I think that Anvil and Forge should have been gone to the open source as well.... Those should be re-made to fit OSX and AO capabilities, and to improve the game(more weapons, aliens, effects, walls, etc.)

I hope you didn't bore you

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I get jealous when I see other...Nicholai 2/22/05 8:41 p.m.
     Re: I get jealous when I see other...Forrest of B.org 2/22/05 9:32 p.m.
           Re: I get jealous when I see other...TwelveMotion 2/23/05 1:25 a.m.
                 Re: I get jealous when I see other...Jorge 2/23/05 5:43 a.m.
                       I've said it before and I'll say it again...Anaphiel 2/23/05 6:40 a.m.
                             And as a brief followup...Anaphiel 2/23/05 6:49 a.m.
                                   Re: And as a brief followup...Jorge 2/23/05 9:49 a.m.
                                   Re: And as a brief followup...Little Kago 2/23/05 1:18 p.m.
                                         Re: And as a brief followup...Anaphiel 2/23/05 2:03 p.m.
                                               Re: And as a brief followup...luke9 2/23/05 6:02 p.m.
                             Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again...Malakite 2/23/05 2:50 p.m.
     You get what you pay forSteve Levinson 2/23/05 5:06 a.m.
           Re: You get what you pay forTyler 2/23/05 2:34 p.m.
                 Re: You get what you pay for, ForrestNicholai 2/23/05 6:45 p.m.
                       Re: Sorry about the spelling and grammar mistakes *NM*Nicholai 2/23/05 6:52 p.m.
                       Re: You get what you pay for, Forrestrampancy 2/23/05 7:06 p.m.
                             Re: You get what you pay for, ForrestForrest of B.org 2/23/05 8:20 p.m.
                                   Re: You get what you pay for, Forrestrampancy 2/24/05 2:58 a.m.
                             Re: You get what you pay for, ForrestNicholai 2/23/05 8:29 p.m.
                 Re: You get what you pay forrampancy 2/23/05 7:11 p.m.
                       Re: You get what you pay forJorge 2/24/05 5:13 a.m.
                             Just tell me, why don't improve?Nicholai 2/24/05 12:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Just tell me, why don't improve?Forrest of B.org 2/24/05 12:54 p.m.
                                         You win this discution...Nicholai 2/24/05 1:03 p.m.
                                               Re: You win this discution...Jorge 2/24/05 4:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: You win this discution...Nicholai 2/24/05 4:52 p.m.
                                                           Re: You win this discution...Forrest of B.org 2/24/05 5:01 p.m.
                                                                 Re: You win this discution...Andromeda_5[Kilo] 2/24/05 5:05 p.m.
                                                                       Re: You win this discution...Adam Ashwell 2/24/05 5:43 p.m.
                                                                             back to topicukimalefu 2/24/05 6:29 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: back to topicSimon of team Sigma 2/25/05 3:51 a.m.
                                                                             Re: You win this discution...tcm 2/24/05 7:42 p.m.
                                                                       Re: You win this discution...Jorge 2/25/05 4:04 a.m.
                                                                       Re: You win this discution...D-M.A. 2/27/05 2:08 a.m.
           Quick question...Siphonopho 2/24/05 8:09 p.m.
                 Re: Quick question...Steve Levinson 2/25/05 5:07 a.m.
                       Re: Quick question...Nicholai 2/25/05 12:06 p.m.
                             Re: Quick question...Forrest of B.org 2/25/05 4:55 p.m.
                                   Re: Quick question...Adam Ashwell 2/25/05 5:18 p.m.
                                         Re: Quick question...Nicholai 2/25/05 7:38 p.m.
                                               Quick question... how hard woul it be to add theNicholai 2/25/05 7:54 p.m.
                                               Re: Quick question...D-M.A. 2/27/05 2:18 a.m.
                                                     Re: Quick question...Speaker-To-Animals 2/27/05 9:50 a.m.
                                                           Re: Quick question...D-M.A. 2/28/05 12:00 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Quick question...Speaker-To-Animals 2/28/05 8:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Quick question...goran 2/26/05 12:54 a.m.
           Re: You get what you pay forSpeaker-To-Animals 2/27/05 9:27 a.m.
                 Re: You get what you pay forthermoplyae 2/27/05 4:14 p.m.
           Crap! Can't believe I missed this thread!!Me_43 2/27/05 11:39 p.m.
                 Re: Crap! Can't believe I missed this thread!!Steve Levinson 2/28/05 5:15 a.m.
                       Re: Crap! Can't believe I missed this thread!!Me_43 2/28/05 10:39 p.m.
                             hey where can I see this E0...Nicholai 3/1/05 1:53 p.m.
                                   Re: hey where can I see this E0...Me_43 3/1/05 10:23 p.m.
                             Re: Crap! Can't believe I missed this thread!!Steve Levinson 3/1/05 9:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Crap! Can't believe I missed this thread!!luke9 3/1/05 9:19 p.m.
     Re: I get jealous when I see other...thermoplyae 2/27/05 4:13 p.m.
     Re: I get jealous when I see other...tcm 2/28/05 7:13 a.m.
           Re: I get jealous when I see other...Nicholai 3/1/05 1:48 p.m.
                 Re: I get jealous when I see other...tcm 3/2/05 9:49 a.m.

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