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Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)
Posted By: ArchilenDate: 10/18/12 4:59 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12) (Phoenix_9286)


: Interesting how the Chief has gotten progressively less green as time has
: gone on. He's practically brown now.

: And this: "As the video game industry advances, so does its tools and
: techniques, and that is readily apparent when looking at the Master
: Chief’s evolution over the past ten years. Each iteration of our favorite
: Spartan super-soldier has been distinctive yet similar, but don’t confuse
: design with canon – the Chief is the Chief, just with the details and
: idiosyncrasies based on what each time period and toolset has to
: offer."

: Kinda bugs me.

: "Each iteration of our favorite Spartan super-soldier has been
: distinctive yet similar..." except for ours for some unknown
: inexplicable reason.

: "...but don’t confuse design with canon..." or continuity
: apparently.

: "...the Chief is the Chief, just with the details and idiosyncrasies
: based on what each time period and toolset has to offer."

: So now you'd have me believe the Chief has no canon appearance, just a vague
: shape filled in with whatever details the art director decides to dump on
: it using whatever new tools they have to play with. At least Bungie had
: the courtesy to give me a reason when they decided to dramatically change
: the armor. Anything after that was fiddling with the fine details.

: On the brighter side, I don't cringe every time I see that armor now.
: Actually I don't have any reaction to it at all. I think my brain has just
: decided to ignore it every time it's presented. The only thing that set me
: off this time was their quip about each iteration being "distinctive
: yet similar" when theirs clearly bares little to no resemblance to
: anything before it.

This. It's funny how they keep pointing fingers by equating their redesign of the Chief to the changes in Bungie's games. The change from Mark V to Mark VI had a very definite and believable canonical explanation, and the Halo 2 and Halo 3 Mark VI's are basically identical aside from added graphical fidelity and changes in a few details but nothing compared to the changes in Halo 4.

Meanwhile, the Halo 4 armor is completely redesigned without a believable explanation and no, nanomachines don't count, especially when 343i seems to be going back-and-forth between the quasi-fictional nanomagic explanation and the "it's just artistic license" seen in the Bulletin.

Like you, I'm not nearly as repulsed by the new armor anymore, but I still would've preferred they stuck with a graphically updated (and no, that does not equal "completely redesigned" like 343i seems to maintain) version of the original Mark VI, even if the Chief did gain a new armor later on.

On another note, looking at the comparison image, I still like the original Mark V the most. Detail or graphics mean nothing when your design is distinctive enough.


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Bulletin! (10.17.12)INSANEdrive 10/18/12 12:57 a.m.
     More Super Secret CodeINSANEdrive 10/18/12 1:02 a.m.
           Re: More Super Secret CodeDHalo 10/18/12 1:14 a.m.
                 Re: More Super Secret CodeRice 10/18/12 1:15 a.m.
                       Re: More Super Secret CodeNotTheVacuum 10/18/12 6:32 a.m.
                             Re: More Super Secret CodeMr Daax 10/18/12 12:33 p.m.
                 Re: More Super Secret CodeNotTheVacuum 10/18/12 6:31 a.m.
                       That's exactly what I was thinking.Gravemind 10/18/12 2:32 p.m.
           Re: More Super Secret Codethebruce0 10/18/12 9:40 a.m.
                 Re: More Super Secret CodeBeorn 10/18/12 12:23 p.m.
                       Re: More Super Secret Codethebruce0 10/18/12 1:10 p.m.
                             Re: More Super Secret CodeGeneral Vagueness 10/19/12 2:08 p.m.
     No new Skulls?Rice 10/18/12 1:14 a.m.
           Re: No new Skulls?TDSpiral 10/18/12 1:18 a.m.
                 Re: No new Skulls?davidfuchs 10/18/12 6:38 a.m.
           That's MESSED Up! *NM*Morpheus 10/18/12 1:33 a.m.
           Blind still the same.bluerunner 10/18/12 8:18 a.m.
                 Re: Blind still the same.Postmortem 10/18/12 11:16 a.m.
     No searching for skulls? Aw, man. :(Gravemind 10/18/12 1:21 a.m.
           Nothing like clubbing covies to death with a skull *NM*Rice 10/18/12 1:35 a.m.
     Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Phoenix_9286 10/18/12 1:45 a.m.
           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)uberfoop 10/18/12 2:24 a.m.
           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Archilen 10/18/12 4:59 a.m.
                 Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Bryan Newman 10/18/12 5:06 a.m.
                       Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Mid7night 10/18/12 11:07 a.m.
     Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/18/12 3:37 a.m.
           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Chewbaccawakka 10/18/12 4:05 a.m.
                 Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Rice 10/18/12 5:40 a.m.
                       Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Bryan Newman 10/18/12 5:48 a.m.
                             Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/18/12 10:36 a.m.
                                   Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Louis Wu 10/18/12 11:13 a.m.
                                         Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/18/12 12:01 p.m.
                                   Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Cody Miller 10/18/12 11:44 a.m.
                                         Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/18/12 12:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Revenant1988 10/18/12 12:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/19/12 9:25 a.m.
                                                           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)General Vagueness 10/19/12 3:15 p.m.
                                   Negative Opinions are Such a DownerMacGyver10 10/18/12 12:48 p.m.
                                   My high horse's name is Butt-StallionBryan Newman 10/18/12 6:13 p.m.
                                         Re: My high horse's name is Butt-StallionChewbaccawakka 10/18/12 7:34 p.m.
                                         Re: My high horse's name is Butt-StallionGravemind 10/19/12 12:08 a.m.
                                               Excellent post. *NM*NsU Soldier 10/21/12 9:31 a.m.
                                               Well said. *NM*GrimBrother One 10/21/12 10:15 a.m.
                                   Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)padraig08 10/18/12 6:44 p.m.
                                         Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/19/12 9:46 a.m.
                             Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Rice 10/18/12 11:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)TDSpiral 10/19/12 4:35 a.m.
                                         Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)General Vagueness 10/19/12 3:03 p.m.
           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)General Vagueness 10/19/12 12:56 a.m.
           Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Train Dodger 10/19/12 2:02 a.m.
                 Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)Quirel 10/19/12 9:44 a.m.
                 Re: Bulletin! (10.17.12)General Vagueness 10/19/12 2:54 p.m.
     Skulls, Terminals, etc.(Long)Hyokin 10/18/12 10:58 a.m.
           Re: Skulls, Terminals, etc.(Long)MacGyver10 10/18/12 12:56 p.m.
           Super long replyKermit 10/18/12 8:32 p.m.
                 Re: Super long replyPhoenix_9286 10/18/12 8:54 p.m.
                 Holy moley.Louis Wu 10/19/12 6:12 a.m.
                       Re: Holy moley.NotTheVacuum 10/19/12 8:32 a.m.
                 Yep. That's it.thebruce0 10/19/12 8:53 a.m.
                 Re: Super long replyBeckx 10/19/12 9:20 a.m.
                       Ugh. *NM*Kermit 10/19/12 11:36 a.m.
                       Re: Super long replyGeneral Vagueness 10/19/12 3:14 p.m.
                             Re: Super long replyBeckx 10/19/12 4:08 p.m.
                                   Maybe it's for the bestscarab 10/19/12 5:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Super long replyGeneral Vagueness 10/20/12 11:24 a.m.
                                         Re: Super long replyLouis Wu 10/20/12 12:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Super long replyHyokin 10/20/12 2:51 p.m.
                                                     Re: Super long replyLouis Wu 10/20/12 5:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: Super long replyGeneral Vagueness 10/20/12 7:50 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Super long replyuberfoop 10/20/12 8:08 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Super long replyHedgemony 10/20/12 8:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Super long replyCody Miller 10/21/12 12:25 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Super long replyQuirel 10/21/12 1:23 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Super long replyGeneral Vagueness 10/22/12 12:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Super long replyGeneral Vagueness 10/22/12 12:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: Super long replymunky-058 10/20/12 5:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: Super long replyLouis Wu 10/20/12 10:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: Super long replyDHalo 10/20/12 6:00 p.m.
                 Kinda long reply (with Covenant speech sidetrack)Hyokin 10/19/12 10:24 a.m.
                 Good articulation.uberfoop 10/19/12 12:29 p.m.
                       Re: Good articulation.Kermit 10/19/12 1:38 p.m.
                             Re: Good articulation.uberfoop 10/19/12 2:25 p.m.
     I'm going to be honest.Jaydee 10/18/12 1:47 p.m.
           Re: I'm going to be honest.thebruce0 10/18/12 3:12 p.m.
                 Re: I'm going to be honest.TDSpiral 10/18/12 3:19 p.m.
                       Re: I'm going to be honest.Jaydee 10/18/12 3:39 p.m.
                             Re: I'm going to be honest.General Vagueness 10/19/12 2:25 p.m.



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