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Re: I love discussions :)
Posted By: RC Master	Date: 4/26/12 7:48 a.m.
In Response To: I love discussions :) (nillapuddin) : First off, Loved the video. Thank you! I'm glad it's going over well :D : *CTF* : 2-Flag: This is my first love, I dont want to see it go, however 2-flag at : home to score really only works in BTB where you have the flexibility of : having someone without a weapon hiding like a scared school girl in your : base, in a smaller setting it just turns into a wash. At home to score is insane - all it ever does in my games is grind the game to a halt as teams are too afraid to risk giving up the Flag they're holding to go attack the other team again. There is a reason it's not in many Flag gametypes to begin with! Plus I don't like how it makes one player, who has come all the way across the map, then have to absolutely stop and do nothing while the rest of their team messes about trying to reset their Flag. : Now we do know that H4 OBJ will focus on 5v5 matchups Wait, I thought they said they were trying 5v5 but ultimately decided to stick with 4v4 since it fit the maps they were making better? : 1-Flag: Quitters, ever single game, without question. Not to mention how : unbelievably rampant quitting is in Reach in general, in OBJ its even : worse. I 100% agree with you there should be "if Team A has secured : the victory, dont give Team B another round" It just ends up being a : 2 second round due to the whole team quitting, or all 4-5 of us chasing : one guy around the board. If they did anything, I just wish they would do that :/ Invasion could also use that rule IMO. I can't imagine they're out of script space since they were still adding goddamn Slayer and SpeedFlag to the CTF gametype! : Flag-Slayer: My opinion might surprise people here but I am not completely : opposed to this gametype (SOMETIMES), if all the other team wants to do is : kill, then it will be a frustrating match, but if you can manage to get a : flag in there somewhere you can force them into playing the game. We have : played many games were we said balls to it, went all out for the 3 caps : and won the game with our K/D in shreds but a winning smile, there are : also games where we have been incredibly evenly matched and although a lot : of kills changed hands, that 1 flag cap made a difference. It does breed a : very challenging type of strategy depending on who you are playing. : I feel like it almost would be better off just scrapping it, but at the same : time I completely understand what they were trying to accomplish there. Oh I understand as well - so that if teams are equal on Flag caps, they can be differentiated on kills. Problem is, when one team has the advantage in kills to a large enough extent, they can prevent the other side from getting any Flag caps at all. They make 1 to secure the win, and then have 150 extra points to grind through in kills! I actually spent some time concepting ways to use the notion of Kills + Flag captures to differentiate teams. The closest I got to something good, I think, was making it one flag, where attackers only got (big) points for flag captures, and defenders got points for kills. I can't remember exactly where my thought-train went with that, but I ended up not liking it since I thought it would make attackers too cautious with their lives when they should be gunning for the Flag (IMO). I ended up liking the time-pressure idea better, seems more 'Halo'. : CTF In General: Movement speed up to 100%, no problem with this (at-first, * : see below) : *I am my own Devils Advocate on this however, I completely understand why : this exists, you have to create a pack mentality, and guarding the flag : carrier is essential, when he/she is slower you either have to get that : Spartan in a Hog, or form up and take a bullet or 90, I would have to play : a gametype in which the flag is at default a few times before I could form : a solid opinion, but I completely understand your point and my : counterpoint. That was true in Halo 2/3, but in Reach/H4 carriers are already slower if you just restrict AAs. : It would be awesome if you did Invasion next, I have already dug a shallow : grave for Invasion as I feel it will likely not be coming back (with the : same name) but I truly hope with all my heart a similar gametype is : created in 4 : I love Invasion I like Invasion too :) People have been asking a lot for me to do an Invasion vid (and Infection!) but TBH I hadn't thought much about Invasion in Halo 4 yet and my hopes were kinda dashed when it was announced there were no Elites in Halo 4 MP, but this could give me a good excuse to think about it more!

Message Index

Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	RC Master	4/25/12 3:56 p.m.
p.s. HBO members feature in vid	RC Master	4/25/12 4:35 p.m.
Senno ecto gammat! *NM*	Bones	4/25/12 4:46 p.m.
Wait, does it actually bother you?	RC Master	4/25/12 5:25 p.m.
Re: Wait, does it actually bother you?	Bones	4/25/12 6:22 p.m.
Leeloo Dallas multipass! *NM*	Gravemind	4/25/12 7:44 p.m.
I love discussions :)	nillapuddin	4/25/12 4:54 p.m.
the thing I forgot!	nillapuddin	4/25/12 5:00 p.m.
Re: I love discussions :)	RC Master	4/26/12 7:48 a.m.
sharing ideas is awesome, halo is awesome.	nillapuddin	4/26/12 9:11 a.m.
damnit RC, look what you made me do!	Revenant1988	4/25/12 5:52 p.m.
damnit Revenant, look what you made me do!	nillapuddin	4/26/12 5:05 a.m.
Re: damnit Revenant, look what you made me do!	RC Master	4/26/12 11:40 a.m.
Re: damnit Revenant, look what you made me do!	nillapuddin	4/26/12 12:02 p.m.
Re: damnit RC, look what you made me do!	RC Master	4/26/12 11:33 a.m.
Cool Vid Bro	padraig08	4/25/12 6:48 p.m.
What is this, i don't even...	RC Master	4/26/12 6:45 p.m.
Re: Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	343winks.	4/25/12 9:05 p.m.
Re: Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	RC Master	4/26/12 6:53 p.m.
Re: Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	343winks.	4/27/12 6:02 a.m.
Loved this vid.	The Lionheart	4/26/12 3:51 a.m.
Re: Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	DEEP NNN	4/26/12 7:19 a.m.
Re: Flag in Halo 4 *vid*	SEspider	4/26/12 10:43 a.m.
Nice video!	The Alpha ELite	4/26/12 4:15 p.m.
Caution, may contain traces of *MATH*	Der Flatulator	4/26/12 10:22 p.m.