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Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*
Posted By: Urban ReflexDate: 12/21/11 1:25 p.m.

In Response To: Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT* (Beckx)


: I have such conflicted feelings. The Hobbit is a children's story. It
: features goblins that sing a silly song called "Fifteen Birds in Five
: Fir Trees" while trying to burn Thorin & Co alive; it features
: silly elves making mocking fun of dwarven beards. Parts of this trailer
: seem to understand the book, while others seem to be trying to force it to
: fit the tone of LotR, which is so very different.

: Things I like: the visual appearance of the dwarves; the singing (both the
: solemn chant & the silly "crack the plates" scene); how the
: dwarves fall into Bag End when Bilbo opens the door; the spider lair.

: Things that did not need to be: Thorin's "guarantee his safety"
: line; Galadriel appearing in the movie in any way, shape or form; Bilbo
: looking at the shards of Narsil.

: It is like the predecessor movies in this regard: so carefully done; so
: wonderfully visualized; so perfect in portraying the events written into
: the story; and so sadly full of complete bullshit invented by the
: directors. Each thing they've added in the movies (e.g., the speech in
: RotK about heaven waiting for everyone!) has done violence to the themes
: & the story.

: Watching this trailer is like a microcosm of how I feel about the first three
: movies. I love so much about them, but - and this is a feeling that never
: happens with the Harry Potter movies, where they do not invent major story
: elements just for the movies - when the deviate from the books they do so
: in a way that's so tone deaf, so damaging to the themes that run
: throughout Tolkien, that it makes me unhappy with the final product.

: Deeply conflicted (as perhaps only someone with a Tolkien tattoo on his
: shoulder can be :)

I can understand where you're coming from. The thing is though, neither The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings could translate directly into film and still be any good. They're very much fine examples of story telling in book form, and that can rarely go unaltered when making the transition to film.

The way I look at it is just to take them for what they are, the books are books and the films are films, each telling the same story but in different ways that make the most sense for their medium.


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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Postmortem 12/21/11 12:05 p.m.
     You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*JDQuackers 12/21/11 12:27 p.m.
           Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*DMFanella 12/21/11 12:37 p.m.
                 Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*JDQuackers 12/21/11 12:42 p.m.
                       Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Leviathan 12/21/11 1:03 p.m.
                       Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*General Vagueness 12/21/11 4:01 p.m.
                 Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Beckx 12/21/11 1:17 p.m.
                       Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Urban Reflex 12/21/11 1:25 p.m.
                             Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Beckx 12/21/11 1:35 p.m.
                                   Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Jazo 12/21/11 2:35 p.m.
                                         Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Beckx 12/21/11 2:39 p.m.
                       Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Quirel 12/21/11 7:09 p.m.
                             Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Beckx 12/21/11 7:37 p.m.
                             Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Lurono 12/21/11 11:52 p.m.
                                   Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*Quirel 12/22/11 12:49 a.m.
                                         Can't disagree there =) *NM*Lurono 12/22/11 2:31 a.m.
           Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*General Vagueness 12/21/11 3:09 p.m.
                 Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*JDQuackers 12/21/11 3:17 p.m.
                       Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*SonGoharotto 12/21/11 3:58 p.m.
           Re: You mean, "LoTR: The Prequel" *OT*TheSparbiter 12/22/11 3:57 a.m.
     Sweet!Seraph XXVII 12/21/11 12:45 p.m.
     Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Urban Reflex 12/21/11 1:07 p.m.
     Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 12/21/11 4:19 p.m.
     Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*padraig08 12/21/11 5:52 p.m.
           Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Leviathan 12/21/11 6:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Beckx 12/21/11 9:09 p.m.
                       Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Leviathan 12/22/11 12:16 a.m.
                             Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Beckx 12/22/11 7:08 a.m.
                                   Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*SonofMacPhisto 12/22/11 9:05 a.m.
                                   The Council of BeckxLeviathan 12/22/11 2:24 p.m.
                                         Re: The Council of BeckxBeckx 12/22/11 2:48 p.m.
                             Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*uberfoop 12/22/11 12:00 p.m.
                                   Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Leviathan 12/22/11 12:44 p.m.
                                         Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*uberfoop 12/22/11 4:12 p.m.
                 Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Flynn J Taggart 12/21/11 9:33 p.m.
     Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Quirel 12/22/11 6:08 p.m.
           Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Warren Peace 12/23/11 2:36 p.m.
                 Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*Quirel 12/23/11 2:38 p.m.
                 Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*General Vagueness 12/23/11 4:24 p.m.
           Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey *OT*SonofMacPhisto 12/23/11 2:50 p.m.



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