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Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...
Posted By: Chappy <chappy@nospam.com>	Date: 6/2/01 6:27 p.m.
In Response To: Re: I'm not a lawyer. but... (DeAdLy_cOoKiE) The intent of my original post was to offer a counterpoint to the attitude that software piracy isn't theft (but let's not get back into that, I think we've expressed our opinions). With this dialogue, I just wanted to explore those ideas. I don't hope to "convince" you that I'm correct, your actions and beliefs are your own. I don't think I'll pirate software after better understanding your reasoning, but at least I know more about it. I don't think you'll suddenly start buying more of the software you use, but at least you know more about my point of view. But hey, think about it :) With regard to Microsoft (the "former" party I was referring to), I agree with many of your opinions. They do have unscrupulous business practices, there are problems with their products, and I'm not fond of using their Windows OS and applications as a result. However they are still the best tools for certain jobs, so I use them. FWIW, that dislike does not extend to the actual developers, I know several MS developers who do everything they can, and their Macintosh software is actually quite good. And we can't forget that Halo will itself be a Microsoft product running on Microsoft hardware. All that aside, I still have to pay for what I use (IMHO). As for shareware, I think paying shareware fees is just as important as commercial software. As I understand your view, it's even more important (since you'd be more likely to spend your money to target specific people, and smaller markets require greater user support). You raise an interesting idea about a "new world" but I don't think it would work. Competition drives innovation. Materialism drives production. Such a global economic overhaul would be realisticly impossible, and would provide no benefit to the people making the change. It's a socialist ideal, is it not? (I'm not exactly well read when it comes to geopolitical and economic thoery). It might make a decent backstory to a Science Fiction story, though. -Chappy : Exactly! (What are you trying to say here? What are you tring to achieve? : Don't you evade on me here!) : .... : I'm a musician myself (or like to think that I am), I wouldn't like it if : someone downloaded my music, I'd much rather want them to buy my CD (after : all, I've been learning how to, and working, wasting a lot of energy, on : it for years). But there's nothing I could do about it, apart from writing : exceptionally great stuff, mentally hypnotising you, forcing you to walk : to the store and actually buy one because you place me/or my music, very : high in your upper-ego, and start accusing me of being a god, feeling : guilty if you didn't buy it! You just HAD to have it in a material form. : Wishing you could put cash in my hand personally, because you know a : percentage (most of it) is going to the publishers/record company. : Again, I'm not saying that I download everything (There are CD's that I find : good, prodigy for instance, and there are CD's that are shitty, exept for : one song, in that case I'll use napster). I payed 25 guilder for : registering a silly little program (few KB in size) called sid2midi (for : covering old c64 tunes to todays midi standard), not only because I needed : it but also because the guy who made it is a genius. The guy HAS the power : to ask a rediculously amount of cash for it (it's not a program everyone : needs, except for a few, it's not a hot thing to put on a warez site), but : he didn't, and I respect him for that. : OH, I forgot to mention that you could download patches/cracks for those as : well : (I suppose you're not the only one who thinks that way about keys and : codesheets) : Don't be a frustrated induvidual, give in to it, (Microsoft is ripping : everybody of, in each version of windows they litteraly leave something : out on purpose so you have to buy each and every time there's a new : version), download windows XP, it is only a click away. But BUY stuff you : think that deserves to be bought, stuff you use (Halo for instance). If : you feel like buying windows then you do so. What do you mean by former? : BTW. I have often thought about a world (A new religion, star trek?), where : you pay taxes (in form of 'credits') to contribute to technology (and some : sort of democracy concerning technology that's being develloped). ATI, : NVIDIA, PHILIPS, SONY all merged to ONE company, no competition. Whenever : there's new technology, everybody can take advantage of it, everybody's : equal, everybody has a computer/tv/car with the same specs. But ofcourse, : everybody (companies) have different visions, and there's a materialistic : thought behind it all, we, my friend, are exacly the same as the time when : we were neanderthals, we're a bunch of silly apes wearing clothes and : driving cars, polluting this earth (I often ask myself why cars still : drive on fuel ISO water since it IS possible), wasting a lot of energy : debating whether you should buy or download software, a pointless debat : might I add, because half of the worlds population is doing it as we're : debating. (What's the point of argueing when you're all alone?). We live : in a dumb world, with a lot of stupid people, all you can do is accept it. : Or die frustrated, or from skincancer.

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Long Post..OUCH!!!	Steve Campbell	5/31/01 6:30 p.m.
Bungie is God!	{mAc}Dark Eagle	5/31/01 7:18 p.m.
Re: Bungie is God!	vector40	5/31/01 7:52 p.m.
Indeed!!!!!!!!! *NM*	{mAc}Dark Eagle	5/31/01 8:08 p.m.
Re: Bungie is God!	Lacsap	6/1/01 2:18 p.m.
Abuse	Sound of Onion	6/1/01 4:49 p.m.
but..but..!	Mojo	6/1/01 6:22 p.m.
Re: Abuse	Dan Rudolph	6/1/01 7:39 p.m.
Re: Abuse	Darth Oosha	6/3/01 2:06 p.m.
Re: Long Post..OUCH!!!	Hethal	5/31/01 9:14 p.m.
Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. READ!	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/1/01 12:47 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Pfhormula	6/1/01 1:25 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Pfhormula	6/1/01 1:29 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Nate	6/1/01 6:18 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Dan Rudolph	6/1/01 7:37 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Nate	6/2/01 1:53 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Dan Rudolph	6/1/01 1:29 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/1/01 1:37 p.m.
Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. R	Dan Rudolph	6/1/01 7:30 p.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	Lophan	6/1/01 3:07 p.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/1/01 3:29 p.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	Dan Rudolph	6/1/01 7:33 p.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/2/01 10:14 a.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	Louis Wu	6/2/01 10:45 a.m.
Re: So you can play Marathon...	Dan Rudolph	6/2/01 3:11 p.m.
Re: DeAdLy_cOoKiE steals software	Chappy	6/1/01 9:44 p.m.
I'm not a lawyer. but...	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/2/01 9:47 a.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	Chappy	6/2/01 1:49 p.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/2/01 3:17 p.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	Chappy	6/2/01 6:27 p.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	DeAdLy_cOoKiE	6/2/01 7:00 p.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	vector40	6/2/01 11:23 p.m.
Re: Shareware	Chappy	6/3/01 5:14 a.m.
Re: Shareware	vector40	6/3/01 1:19 p.m.
Re: Shareware	Dan Rudolph	6/3/01 3:11 p.m.
Re: Shareware	Nate	6/3/01 3:56 p.m.
Re: Shareware	Chappy	6/4/01 8:57 a.m.
Re: Shareware	Dan Rudolph	6/4/01 10:54 a.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	Louis Wu	6/3/01 10:21 a.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	Dan Rudolph	6/3/01 12:41 p.m.
Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...	vector40	6/3/01 1:17 p.m.
PiD started Marathon's shockwave, so pbbbbbbbth *NM*	get azure	6/3/01 2:14 p.m.
Amen to that!	Pfhormula	6/1/01 4:27 a.m.
Re: Amen to that!	Steve Campbell	6/1/01 10:12 a.m.