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Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...
Posted By: Chappy <chappy@nospam.com>Date: 6/2/01 1:49 p.m.

In Response To: I'm not a lawyer. but... (DeAdLy_cOoKiE)

You're absolutely right, there's nothing much I can do about it except voice my opinion and talk to you about it. I'm not a lawyer either (nor a grandmother nor rich :). I'm just frustrated that you don't see a difference between what you do consider theft (walking out of a store with something in your bag) and software piracy. Is it the greater potential for being caught (by security camera, staff, customers)? You say you do it "because you can"... do you mean "because you can get away with it?"
Hypothetically, if you could "download" hardware into your home without paying for it (except the cool bungie keyboard, of course), would you? Is it the physicallity of the hardware or software box that makes it theft?
I'm not "telling you to be guilty", I guess I'm asking why you aren't.

I have friends who write software, and piracy has always been a concern. If they dedicated resources to making software impossible to copy (I know, I know), wouldn't you then be forced to make a decision to buy or not buy (and not pirate)? The industry felt that way before, but changed direction to reduce copy protection in the nineties. Now I wonder if the ability to pirate you speak of will force a change on their part, and I *hate* all those stupid little hardware keys and key disks and code sheets and all that crap from yesteryear.

-Chappy (who does pay Microsoft and Apple for OS upgrades, but I'm not happy about the former :)

: I consider that *theft*, and you can be caught by camera's or people that are

: watching you. The idea scares me. I would not do such a thing, I have
: principles.

: I'm not saying that it's right. I'm just saying that I can. And I'm not blind
: of the fact that half of earth's population (which you are accusing of
: being criminals) downloads software (or music) straight from the internet,
: simply because they can.

: I like a LOT of things in life, a lot of games a lot of music, a lot of
: everything, you could say that I live life to the max (whatever), are you
: telling me that I should feel guilty and buy 'everything' I like?
: Sure a buy a CD now and then, or a game, or whatever, just not 'eveything'.
: I'm happy that you are a millionare with morals, for some people their morals
: (or visions) lie different, some people are just not as ritch as you
: are...
: And actually, I find audio CD's (and perhaps games) way too expensive,
: Perhaps if it wouldn't be that expensive, there weren't that many people
: using napster or downloading games from internet!
: Should I buy a new version of windows every year? Nah, it's ridiculously
: expensive, microsoft does NOT have morals, they steal ideas from other
: software companies, they are in a monopoly position and taking advantage
: of it, it's just a game for them. You could see them as criminals as well
: I suppose.
: You can consider me (and thousands of others) a criminal, I consider myself
: clever and level-headed, I much rather save some cash and spent it on
: hardware. Perhaps you could see those who created those warez-sites as
: criminals, but that is debatable as well. This is life man, wake up! There
: will always a drug-dealer in your neighbourhoor. There's nothing much you,
: or anyone else could do about it. You're almost sounding like my
: grandmother here...

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Long Post..OUCH!!!Steve Campbell 5/31/01 6:30 p.m.
     Bungie is God!{mAc}Dark Eagle 5/31/01 7:18 p.m.
           Re: Bungie is God!vector40 5/31/01 7:52 p.m.
                 Indeed!!!!!!!!! *NM*{mAc}Dark Eagle 5/31/01 8:08 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie is God!Lacsap 6/1/01 2:18 p.m.
                       AbuseSound of Onion 6/1/01 4:49 p.m.
                             but..but..!Mojo 6/1/01 6:22 p.m.
                             Re: AbuseDan Rudolph 6/1/01 7:39 p.m.
                                   Re: AbuseDarth Oosha 6/3/01 2:06 p.m.
     Re: Long Post..OUCH!!!Hethal 5/31/01 9:14 p.m.
           Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. READ!DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/1/01 12:47 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RPfhormula 6/1/01 1:25 p.m.
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                                   Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RDan Rudolph 6/1/01 7:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RNate 6/2/01 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RDan Rudolph 6/1/01 1:29 p.m.
                       Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RDeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/1/01 1:37 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie GOD? Just one of many companies! PLS. RDan Rudolph 6/1/01 7:30 p.m.
                 Re: So you can play Marathon...Lophan 6/1/01 3:07 p.m.
                       Re: So you can play Marathon...DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/1/01 3:29 p.m.
                             Re: So you can play Marathon...Dan Rudolph 6/1/01 7:33 p.m.
                                   Re: So you can play Marathon...DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/2/01 10:14 a.m.
                                         Re: So you can play Marathon...Louis Wu 6/2/01 10:45 a.m.
                                         Re: So you can play Marathon...Dan Rudolph 6/2/01 3:11 p.m.
                             Re: DeAdLy_cOoKiE steals softwareChappy 6/1/01 9:44 p.m.
                                   I'm not a lawyer. but...DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/2/01 9:47 a.m.
                                         Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...Chappy 6/2/01 1:49 p.m.
                                               Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/2/01 3:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...Chappy 6/2/01 6:27 p.m.
                                                           Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...DeAdLy_cOoKiE 6/2/01 7:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...vector40 6/2/01 11:23 p.m.
                                                                       Re: SharewareChappy 6/3/01 5:14 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Sharewarevector40 6/3/01 1:19 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: SharewareDan Rudolph 6/3/01 3:11 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: SharewareNate 6/3/01 3:56 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: SharewareChappy 6/4/01 8:57 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: SharewareDan Rudolph 6/4/01 10:54 a.m.
                                                     Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...Louis Wu 6/3/01 10:21 a.m.
                                                           Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...Dan Rudolph 6/3/01 12:41 p.m.
                                                           Re: I'm not a lawyer. but...vector40 6/3/01 1:17 p.m.
           PiD started Marathon's shockwave, so pbbbbbbbth *NM*get azure 6/3/01 2:14 p.m.
     Amen to that!Pfhormula 6/1/01 4:27 a.m.
           Re: Amen to that!Steve Campbell 6/1/01 10:12 a.m.



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