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U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?
Posted By: Dispatcher <madmacs@excite.com>Date: 9/8/00 2:42 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan? (Dan Rudolph)

> Yeah, there needs to be a PG-ish rating. It could pull some out
> of E and some out of T.

> However, those are seperate items and are not handy for impulse
> purchases. I think the movie industry should adopt somethign
> similar, actually.

That would be cool.

> Microsoft has presumably learned from this generation that a
> console cannot succeed without M games anymore than a video
> rental place can do well if it doesn't carry Rs. THat doesn't
> necessarily mean they'd have to publish them themselves. Sony
> has never published a violent game in the US, but they've
> authorized plenty.

Yes, I think M$ will adopt this approach as well. It clearly would want to emulate what seems a successful route of a competitor. Its like Disney with an "independent" arm for producing "mature" content.

> There are generally identifiable intestines on the ground after
> major bombings. I know you can get them from berks and pigs, and
> I'm not sure what else.

Heh! What can I say? I've never noticed, probably because I was so busy trying to herd my units and keep them alive. 8=} (Specially those Dwarves!)

> I've haven't seen too many games juicier than Myth, so I'm not
> sure what you mean there.

It gets back to opinions. Somehow, Myth doesn't seem to deserve an M rating to me, while UT (which I enjoy playing) seems more chock full of gibs. Same with Q 3. Your opinions will likely differ from mine. That's OK with me.

Anyway, it seems mighty inconsistent
> to me. You think that saying "die bitch" should get a
> game an M, while bloody-spattering, limb-scattering kills should
> get it a T. I'm having trouble seeing how threats are worse than
> graphic depictions of violence.

I don't see the taunts as mere threats (indeed, it seems like the "taunts" are heard after the kills much of the time). What bothers me about such language is an entire attitude. American society is so hell-bent on being politically correct that I'm amazed that "Die Bitch" does not incur the wrath of the politically correct everywhere. Be that as it may (or may not be?), I'd rather that teens see an intense game of Myth than hear "Die Bitch", etc. as they are entertained. If that seems inconsistent to others, so be it.

> I agree that there are problems with the rating system. It's
> tougher than the movie and TV systems, for one thing. It's also
> inconsistent.

Very! I think it is also complicated by the fact that most "raters" don't play a game all the way thru before assigning a rating. It's much simpler to sit thru a 1.5 hour movie and throw something at it.

> Metal Gear Solid for Game Boy Color got an E. While it didn't
> have the adult themes of its Playstation counterpart, it was
> every bit as violent. The violence was just depicted in smaller
> 2d form.

I didn't know that. Heh! Technology affects content affects ratings?

> The Street Fighter series tends to get Ts, even though they're
> not graphically violent at all.

> Digimon World got a T for some reason that no one understands.

> Rainbow Six got away with a T somehow.

> And so on. Game publishers need to start complaining more
> vocally.

I wonder if some kind of peer review would work better than what is in place now? That, or at least broadening the scope of those who implement ratings to include members of the industry? Or is that actually done now?

Dispatcher

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Replies:

Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/6/00 11:56 a.m.
     Yup.nexZ 9/6/00 12:03 p.m.
           WILL PEOPLE STOP ASKING THIS!!!!!(NT)Black Knight 9/6/00 1:01 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/6/00 12:11 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 1:55 p.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?mattd 9/6/00 2:20 p.m.
                 Thread on Gore - Not the VeepNathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 3:35 p.m.
                       YES! REAPPLY!nexZ 9/6/00 3:52 p.m.
                             Re: YES! REAPPLY!Matt 9/6/00 5:51 p.m.
                                   Re: SOON™Dispatcher 9/6/00 6:10 p.m.
                                         Re: SOON™Matt 9/6/00 6:50 p.m.
                                               Re: SOON™Ape Man 9/6/00 7:23 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Frost 9/6/00 6:46 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Ape Man 9/6/00 7:32 p.m.
                                   Give it up, give it UP.Forensic 9/6/00 11:59 p.m.
                       Apparently I gave the wrong impression.mattd 9/6/00 6:32 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/7/00 10:02 a.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 4:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 4:57 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 5:40 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/7/00 9:13 a.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not?Dude 9/7/00 11:43 a.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 1:58 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:02 p.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 2:10 p.m.
           Content vs. Exercise of ControlDispatcher 9/7/00 12:12 p.m.
                 Re: Content vs. Exercise of ControlDan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:05 p.m.
                       Re: HardlyDispatcher 9/7/00 2:41 p.m.
                             Re: HardlyDan Rudolph 9/7/00 4:44 p.m.
                                   K-Mart comes to mind.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:00 p.m.
                                         PSXForensic 9/7/00 8:17 p.m.
                                               Ahhh.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:50 p.m.
                                               well actually...*mixy 9/8/00 3:38 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 9:53 p.m.
                                               We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dispatcher 9/8/00 1:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 8:58 a.m.
                                                           Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dispatcher 9/8/00 11:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 1:15 p.m.
                                                                       U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dispatcher 9/8/00 2:42 p.m.
                                                                             Re: U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 3:58 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.carthag 9/8/00 6:19 a.m.
                                               Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 9:04 a.m.
                                                     Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Carth 9/8/00 10:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 11:37 a.m.
           If it looks good it is good.Desio 9/7/00 3:47 p.m.



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