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Re: Halo on PC or not?
Posted By: Dan Rudolph <Ace_of_Sevens@mac.com>Date: 9/6/00 4:01 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo on PC or not? (Nathan E. Bitner)

> Actually, I was thinking about this and since I doubt Halo will
> be some Tribes-like jumping around game ... and certainly I
> imagine it will probably end up at a slower pace. I actually
> wonder what the guys (and girls) will do about human vs. human
> (or cyborg, or whatever) gameplay.

> What happens when you hit a human (for lack of a better word -
> who knows what it will be) in the head with a sniper rifle.
> Brain splatter? Skull shattered? Head decapitated? After all,
> the physics are real down to the shadows and antennas on jeeps.
> Should the graphic content be equally realistic?

> Side 1 says that by making it realistic, you not only keep a
> continuation of the physics model, but also, if kids are
> playing, then they can see that the results of shooting someone
> in the head is real, gory death. It's not Doom or Quake. And, to
> go along with that side, there is (I will hazard a guess ;) the
> mature (17+) rating on it for what it's worth. It's not the
> developers job to babysit the kids - the parents should know
> what their children are buying.

> Side 2 says it IS a developer's responsibility (just as the
> critics of Hollywood say) to avoid especially gory, realistic
> gameplay. In fact, they would argue the more gore, the more it
> would lead kids to mimic the violence ... not that anyone under
> 17 is "supposed" to be playing it. After all, Side 1
> kind of pictures an ideal world ... and we all know we don't
> live in one (the parenting, rating, etc.).

> It's an awfully fine line to walk, and I don't know if it's been
> talked about here. Pretend it's human on human and you're the
> developer. You certainly have the personnel to make it realistic
> down to the exact angle of the bullet. What would you do?

There was a thread about this a while back that basically said the deaths we are used to in games are more gory than is realistic anyway. I think a realistic level of gore is called for.

On a related note, has there ever been a study that attempted to determine whether the graphicness of portrayed violence has any link to violent behavior in real life? I know of at least one study that would imply otherwise.

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Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/6/00 11:56 a.m.
     Yup.nexZ 9/6/00 12:03 p.m.
           WILL PEOPLE STOP ASKING THIS!!!!!(NT)Black Knight 9/6/00 1:01 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/6/00 12:11 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 1:55 p.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?mattd 9/6/00 2:20 p.m.
                 Thread on Gore - Not the VeepNathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 3:35 p.m.
                       YES! REAPPLY!nexZ 9/6/00 3:52 p.m.
                             Re: YES! REAPPLY!Matt 9/6/00 5:51 p.m.
                                   Re: SOON™Dispatcher 9/6/00 6:10 p.m.
                                         Re: SOON™Matt 9/6/00 6:50 p.m.
                                               Re: SOON™Ape Man 9/6/00 7:23 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Frost 9/6/00 6:46 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Ape Man 9/6/00 7:32 p.m.
                                   Give it up, give it UP.Forensic 9/6/00 11:59 p.m.
                       Apparently I gave the wrong impression.mattd 9/6/00 6:32 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/7/00 10:02 a.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 4:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 4:57 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 5:40 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/7/00 9:13 a.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not?Dude 9/7/00 11:43 a.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 1:58 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:02 p.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 2:10 p.m.
           Content vs. Exercise of ControlDispatcher 9/7/00 12:12 p.m.
                 Re: Content vs. Exercise of ControlDan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:05 p.m.
                       Re: HardlyDispatcher 9/7/00 2:41 p.m.
                             Re: HardlyDan Rudolph 9/7/00 4:44 p.m.
                                   K-Mart comes to mind.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:00 p.m.
                                         PSXForensic 9/7/00 8:17 p.m.
                                               Ahhh.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:50 p.m.
                                               well actually...*mixy 9/8/00 3:38 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 9:53 p.m.
                                               We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dispatcher 9/8/00 1:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 8:58 a.m.
                                                           Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dispatcher 9/8/00 11:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 1:15 p.m.
                                                                       U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dispatcher 9/8/00 2:42 p.m.
                                                                             Re: U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 3:58 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.carthag 9/8/00 6:19 a.m.
                                               Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 9:04 a.m.
                                                     Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Carth 9/8/00 10:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 11:37 a.m.
           If it looks good it is good.Desio 9/7/00 3:47 p.m.



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