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Re: Hardly
Posted By: Dan Rudolph <Ace_of_Sevens@mac.com>Date: 9/7/00 4:44 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Hardly (Dispatcher)

> I understand that. Yet these titles are on ESTABLISHED
> consoles/markets.

In that case, there's Resident Evil for Playstation. PSX had only been out a few months at that point, and Resident Evil was a big system seller.

> Further, not withstanding that MK and MGS were popular, I
> suspect that some people think of their content as
> "crap".

Yes, but some people are going to think of Halo as crap too. You can't please everyone.

> Clearly, Halo is positioned to leap beyond the current fare of
> console games with an epic story and intriguing plot.

Metal Gear Solid had this, as did (argueably) Mortal Kombat, though it wasn't a selling point for the latter.

> Bungie/MS simply do not need to stoop to "shock value" in order to
> sell the game and move many XBoxes into the market.

Metal Gear Solid didn't rely on shock value to sell. In fact, there's very little in the way of gore. Nothing that you couldn't get away with in a T. It got an M for adult themes.

> Sure, Halo's physics might be able to give us anatomically correct
> giblets, but it isn't really necessary to offer giblets like many
> other games out there do, since Halo supposedly possesses substance,
> story and plot: features severely lacking in most of the
> "competition".

Playstation has had quite a few of those games, many rated M. Hard as it may be for a fan boy to accept, Bungie isn't the only company to make such games. The follwing are M rated games that did not use gore as their sole selling point that sold over 1 million copies:

Metal Gear Solid
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Silent Hill
Diablo

I'm not sure, but the Turok series may qualify, as may Xenogears.

> No one doubts that Microsoft can publish 17+ rated content (via
> Bungie or any other Studio). However, MS is out to grab the
> largest share of market out there that it can. Rating
> limitations would tend to stiffle some of that growth IMHO.

Doesn't that contradict what you said earlier, that keeping Halo to a T would broaden the audience? Anyway, I doubt we'll see Microsoft taking an early-nineties-Nintendo approach to what they approve. We all know what happened to Nintendo.

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Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/6/00 11:56 a.m.
     Yup.nexZ 9/6/00 12:03 p.m.
           WILL PEOPLE STOP ASKING THIS!!!!!(NT)Black Knight 9/6/00 1:01 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/6/00 12:11 p.m.
     Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 1:55 p.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?mattd 9/6/00 2:20 p.m.
                 Thread on Gore - Not the VeepNathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 3:35 p.m.
                       YES! REAPPLY!nexZ 9/6/00 3:52 p.m.
                             Re: YES! REAPPLY!Matt 9/6/00 5:51 p.m.
                                   Re: SOON™Dispatcher 9/6/00 6:10 p.m.
                                         Re: SOON™Matt 9/6/00 6:50 p.m.
                                               Re: SOON™Ape Man 9/6/00 7:23 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Frost 9/6/00 6:46 p.m.
                                   Re: YES! REAPPLY!Ape Man 9/6/00 7:32 p.m.
                                   Give it up, give it UP.Forensic 9/6/00 11:59 p.m.
                       Apparently I gave the wrong impression.mattd 9/6/00 6:32 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Dark Assassin 9/7/00 10:02 a.m.
           Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 4:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not?Nathan E. Bitner 9/6/00 4:57 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?Dan Rudolph 9/6/00 5:40 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not?dilbert 9/7/00 9:13 a.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not?Dude 9/7/00 11:43 a.m.
                 Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 1:58 p.m.
                       Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:02 p.m.
                             Re: Halo on PC or not? [slightly off topic]Carth 9/7/00 2:10 p.m.
           Content vs. Exercise of ControlDispatcher 9/7/00 12:12 p.m.
                 Re: Content vs. Exercise of ControlDan Rudolph 9/7/00 2:05 p.m.
                       Re: HardlyDispatcher 9/7/00 2:41 p.m.
                             Re: HardlyDan Rudolph 9/7/00 4:44 p.m.
                                   K-Mart comes to mind.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:00 p.m.
                                         PSXForensic 9/7/00 8:17 p.m.
                                               Ahhh.Dispatcher 9/7/00 8:50 p.m.
                                               well actually...*mixy 9/8/00 3:38 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/7/00 9:53 p.m.
                                               We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dispatcher 9/8/00 1:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: We answer to Nathan, Sir!Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 8:58 a.m.
                                                           Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dispatcher 9/8/00 11:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Answering to Dan: who needs Nathan?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 1:15 p.m.
                                                                       U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dispatcher 9/8/00 2:42 p.m.
                                                                             Re: U.S. Open 2000: Rated T?Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 3:58 p.m.
                                         Re: K-Mart comes to mind.carthag 9/8/00 6:19 a.m.
                                               Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 9:04 a.m.
                                                     Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Carth 9/8/00 10:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: K-Mart comes to mind.Dan Rudolph 9/8/00 11:37 a.m.
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