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	Re: Collaborative Conversation
	Posted By: D-M.A.	Date: 9/30/05 9:12 p.m.
	In Response To: Re: Collaborative Conversation (goran) No offense Göran, but I think you're being very narrow minded. Ever heard the story of a man building his house on the mountain with a deep foundation, and another one building his house on the sand? Well, the storm came and struck down the house built on the sand, but it couldn't shake the house on the mountain. What if I came a upon a man one day building his house on the sand. Would I tell him he's doing it wrong and save him a lot of effort and money, or would I just leave him to his folly? Would it be manipulative to tell him it's wrong to build his house on the sand, just because he didn't ask for my advice? I always listen to what others have to say and simple filter out the things that sound retarded. Afterall you can't please everyone, and noone thinks alike. : The differance with jojo is that Steve actually ASKED him. Jojo didn't go and : tell Steve what to do without being asked first. Therefore Steve got what : he wanted from Jojo. The other builders visited Steve and gave him advice : without having been asked to do so. : What Steve could have done, was to ignore the unsolicited advice and ask the : visiting builders for the advice he was interrested of. (if he now wanted : to gain knowledge from them) : In this method he gains what he wants. He gets to discuss and hear the : opinions he's interrested of. The builder also gets what he wants, to : speak about his passion and views. Win/win situation. : So what Im saying here is that Steve should tell the builder, no! I don't : want your unsolicited advice, show me respect and ask me if there's : something I need help with instead. (like jojo did). : I do actually agree with and like your way of thinking of win/win situations, : and grabbing every good thought from all situations you encounter. Deep : down I think in this way too, I've just chosen to take a different : approach to get there. : it's too late now, my brain is exploding : 4.08 goran goes to sleep.

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	Mapping community	goran	9/27/05 11:52 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	Blake37	9/27/05 12:11 p.m.
	Re: Mapping community	Nick Hoad	9/27/05 1:30 p.m.
	Re: Mapping community	Me_43	9/27/05 8:23 p.m.
	Re: Mapping community	goran	9/28/05 12:38 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	RyokoTK	9/28/05 3:25 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	goran	9/28/05 5:23 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	Forrest of B.org	9/28/05 8:18 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	Nick Hoad	9/28/05 12:52 p.m.
	Re: Mapping community	RyokoTK	9/28/05 5:23 p.m.
	Re: Mapping community	ellio7t	9/30/05 9:15 a.m.
	****To mapping community****	me_43	9/28/05 11:45 p.m.
	Just be quiet, me_43. Seriously. *NM*	RyokoTK	9/29/05 3:39 a.m.
	Re: Just be quiet, me_43. Seriously.	Simon/team Sigma	9/29/05 3:50 a.m.
	Re: ****To mapping community****	goran	9/29/05 4:02 a.m.
	Can't we all just get along? *NM*	Bob-B-Q	9/29/05 4:47 a.m.
	Re: Can't we all just get along?	Simon/team Sigma	9/29/05 5:11 a.m.
	Consider the circumstances.	RyokoTK	9/29/05 12:38 p.m.
	Re: Consider the circumstances.	me_43	10/4/05 3:19 a.m.
	I'm with Bob-B-Q on this	Reiginko	9/29/05 5:33 a.m.
	Re: I'm with Bob-B-Q on this	me_43	9/29/05 6:38 a.m.
	To all of you...	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 7:47 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	kyjel	9/29/05 9:11 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	Jacke	9/29/05 9:51 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 8:06 p.m.
	Re: To all of you...	goran	9/29/05 10:00 p.m.
	Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Tyler	9/30/05 1:35 p.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 1:52 p.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 1:53 p.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Tyler	9/30/05 2:57 p.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 10:11 p.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Speaker-To-Animals	10/1/05 7:31 a.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Blake37	10/1/05 9:35 a.m.
	Re: Sleep is irrelevent to the Fobot	Forrest of B.org	10/3/05 2:13 p.m.
	stop	goran	9/29/05 10:44 a.m.
	I wouldn't see it as "preaching"	MrHen	9/29/05 11:41 a.m.
	Re: stop	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 2:40 p.m.
	Re: stop	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 8:01 p.m.
	Re: stop	Bob-B-Q	9/29/05 3:24 p.m.
	Re: stop	RyokoTK	9/29/05 3:29 p.m.
	Re: stop	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 7:49 p.m.
	Re: stop	goran	9/29/05 9:54 p.m.
	Re: stop	Forrest of B.org	9/29/05 10:24 p.m.
	Re: stop	goran	9/30/05 3:10 a.m.
	Re: stop	RyokoTK	9/30/05 4:07 a.m.
	Re: stop	goran	9/30/05 3:18 a.m.
	FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE!!!!!!! *NM*	ukimalefu	9/30/05 4:58 a.m.
	Re: stop	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 6:25 a.m.
	Steve's house	goran	9/30/05 9:10 a.m.
	Collaborative Conversation	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 12:37 p.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 1:32 p.m.
	Unsolicted advice (this time without anecdots)	goran	9/30/05 4:39 p.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	goran	9/30/05 5:10 p.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	D-M.A.	9/30/05 9:12 p.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 10:24 p.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	goran	10/1/05 1:56 a.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	goran	10/1/05 12:52 a.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	D-M.A.	10/1/05 1:39 a.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	D-M.A.	10/1/05 1:50 a.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	goran	10/1/05 2:46 a.m.
	Re: Collaborative Conversation	goran	10/1/05 2:29 a.m.
	Another note to self...	Forrest of B.org	10/3/05 12:10 p.m.
	Subjective vs Objective, Relative vs Absolute	Forrest of B.org	10/3/05 1:12 p.m.
	Applause! *NM*	Blake37	10/3/05 1:42 p.m.
	addition: beliefs and maps	goran	10/3/05 3:22 p.m.
	Re: addition: beliefs and maps	D-M.A.	10/3/05 7:04 p.m.
	Re: addition: beliefs and maps	Forrest of B.org	10/3/05 7:07 p.m.
	Re: addition: beliefs and maps	goran	10/4/05 12:32 a.m.
	MSF Story Hour	Jacke	9/30/05 1:38 p.m.
	Re: To all of you...	me_43	10/1/05 2:37 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	RyokoTK	10/1/05 4:00 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	me_43	10/1/05 7:27 a.m.
	Re: To all of you...	Simon/team Sigma	10/1/05 12:17 p.m.
	Re: To all of you...	Steve Levinson	10/1/05 7:07 p.m.
	Re: To all of you...	C Lund	10/1/05 11:16 p.m.
	Re: An objective opinion? Maybe.	Blayne	9/29/05 7:40 a.m.
	Re: ****To mapping community****	Adam Ashwell	9/29/05 12:08 p.m.
	To me_43, Göran and anyone else who'll listen	Steve Levinson	9/30/05 9:08 p.m.
	Re: To me_43, Göran and anyone else who'll listen	D-M.A.	9/30/05 9:22 p.m.
	Re: To me_43, Göran and anyone else who'll listen	Forrest of B.org	9/30/05 10:35 p.m.
	Re: To me_43, Göran and anyone else who'll listen	goran	10/1/05 12:28 a.m.
	Re: To me_43, Göran and anyone else who'll listen	me_43	10/1/05 2:45 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	D-M.A.	9/29/05 10:42 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	me_43	10/5/05 10:01 p.m.
	Can't see shit. *omg downloads*	Me_43	10/5/05 11:27 p.m.
	Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	Reiginko	10/6/05 2:08 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	Forrest of B.org	10/6/05 6:51 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	goran	10/6/05 9:51 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	Forrest of B.org	10/6/05 2:16 p.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	me_43	10/7/05 2:06 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	goran	10/7/05 2:54 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	Nick Hoad	10/7/05 10:44 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	goran	10/7/05 11:14 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	Nick Hoad	10/7/05 1:54 p.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	me_43	10/8/05 12:54 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	me_43	10/8/05 12:55 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	goran	10/8/05 1:34 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	RyokoTK	10/7/05 3:12 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	me_43	10/8/05 12:55 a.m.
	Re: Oh, man, and I thought this thread had died	RyokoTK	10/8/05 3:16 a.m.
	Do you really think you can make better maps?	RyokoTK	10/6/05 3:34 a.m.
	Re: Do you really think you can make better maps?	Simon/team Sigma	10/6/05 3:55 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	goran	10/6/05 4:14 a.m.
	[end thread]	me_43	10/6/05 5:06 a.m.
	Re: [end thread]	D-M.A.	10/6/05 7:55 a.m.
	Re: [end thread]	Dave	10/7/05 9:08 p.m.
	Re: [end thread]	goran	10/8/05 1:32 a.m.
	Re: [end thread]	goran	10/8/05 2:06 a.m.
	Re: [end thread]	RyokoTK	10/8/05 3:16 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	goran	10/6/05 4:53 a.m.
	Re: Mapping community	goran	10/6/05 11:55 a.m.

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