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Posted By: Forrest of B.org Date: 10/4/06 7:40 a.m.
In Response To: Re: A related question... (D-M.A.)

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Brilliance! How did I miss that?
The M2/Infinity Enforcer weapon is now officially known as the: "WILLFUL-ISSUE NAPALM CANNON" or "N-CANNON" for short. The "WILLFUL-ISSUE SCATTER RIFLE" (M1 Enforcer weapon) is also to be abbreviated to "S-RIFLE" for short.
Also, regarding this whole problem, I came up with a solution last night.
The Willful-issue (Enforcer) weapons work just as they originally did. You can only carry one of them, they use no ammo (don't reload), random ammo on pickup, disappear after use.
The Aggregate-issue (Fighter and Trooper) weapons can carry up to three ammo clips each (three of each kind, both bullets and grenades, for the Havok Rifle), random ammo on pickup, no disappearing after use. I've changed the Lua scripting so that if you pick up any of the Pfhor weapons' ammo and you *don't* already have that weapon, it swaps the ammo for that weapon; otherwise, you just get more ammo, up to your max limit. (The Havok Rifle ammo will also give you a grenade clip if you've already got the weapon). Ammo looks just like the weapons, so as best as you can tell in game, you're getting ammo from dropped weapons; but you don't have the problem that you pick up weapons and they just vanish if you're already maxed out on ammo. They'll just lay there and you can come back and get more of them later. On TC, since there's no ammo limit, you can carry as many of them as you want.
I think this gives a nice balance between the two TC gameplay style concerns (since the S-Rifle, one of the best weapons in the game, still requires you to go find another one; so does the N-Cannon, if you really want to use that). It also solves all of the bugginess with my Lua scripting, and leaves the weapons in a state where you could scatter them around a netmap and not have any Lua scripting involved and they would still work.
Although the Aggregate weapons wouldn't disappear after use, and their ammo looks just like the weapons themselves, so... that could be a little funky. Either you run out of ammo and the weapon is useless until you die, or you'd be running around and *some* 'weapons' (ammo) you pick up would give you ammo while others that looked just like them wouldn't. I suppose I could make it so that walking over a weapon you already have gives you it's ammo, the old way I just got rid of, *in addition* to the new way, so that if you happen across a real Havok Rifle or Shock Staff, you get it's ammo; you'll just never happen across them in solo play. That way netmap makers can just place weapons around, not their ammo, and everything will take care of itself. (You'll still need to place ammo for the Human and Jjaro weapons).
Do the (non-TC) ammo limits still hold in (non-TC) netgames? Or can you carry infinite ammo?

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Two-Function Disappearing Weapon? Forrest of B.org 10/1/06 12:51 p.m.

Re: Two-Function Disappearing Weapon? kyjel 10/1/06 2:13 p.m.

Re: Two-Function Disappearing Weapon? Forrest of B.org 10/1/06 7:50 p.m.

A related question... Forrest of B.org 10/2/06 1:01 p.m.

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Re: A related question... goran 10/3/06 9:27 a.m.

Re: A related question... Forrest of B.org 10/3/06 2:04 p.m.

Re: A related question... D-M.A. 10/3/06 7:17 p.m.

A related answer Forrest of B.org 10/4/06 7:40 a.m.

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Re: A related answer Forrest of B.org 10/4/06 9:50 a.m.

Re: A related answer RyokoTK 10/4/06 1:05 p.m.

Re: A related answer RyokoTK 10/4/06 1:06 p.m.

Re: A related question... goran 10/4/06 6:26 a.m.

Re: A related question... Forrest of B.org 10/4/06 7:20 a.m.

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: Brilliance! How did I miss that? : The M2/Infinity Enforcer weapon is now officially known as the: : "WILLFUL-ISSUE NAPALM CANNON" or "N-CANNON" for short. : The "WILLFUL-ISSUE SCATTER RIFLE" (M1 Enforcer weapon) is also : to be abbreviated to "S-RIFLE" for short. : Also, regarding this whole problem, I came up with a solution last night. : The Willful-issue (Enforcer) weapons work just as they originally did. You : can only carry one of them, they use no ammo (don't reload), random ammo : on pickup, disappear after use. : The Aggregate-issue (Fighter and Trooper) weapons can carry up to three ammo : clips each (three of each kind, both bullets and grenades, for the Havok : Rifle), random ammo on pickup, no disappearing after use. I've changed the : Lua scripting so that if you pick up any of the Pfhor weapons' ammo and : you *don't* already have that weapon, it swaps the ammo for that weapon; : otherwise, you just get more ammo, up to your max limit. (The Havok Rifle : ammo will also give you a grenade clip if you've already got the weapon). : Ammo looks just like the weapons, so as best as you can tell in game, : you're getting ammo from dropped weapons; but you don't have the problem : that you pick up weapons and they just vanish if you're already maxed out : on ammo. They'll just lay there and you can come back and get more of them : later. On TC, since there's no ammo limit, you can carry as many of them : as you want. : I think this gives a nice balance between the two TC gameplay style concerns : (since the S-Rifle, one of the best weapons in the game, still requires : you to go find another one; so does the N-Cannon, if you really want to : use that). It also solves all of the bugginess with my Lua scripting, and : leaves the weapons in a state where you could scatter them around a netmap : and not have any Lua scripting involved and they would still work. : Although the Aggregate weapons wouldn't disappear after use, and their ammo : looks just like the weapons themselves, so... that could be a little : funky. Either you run out of ammo and the weapon is useless until you die, : or you'd be running around and *some* 'weapons' (ammo) you pick up would : give you ammo while others that looked just like them wouldn't. I suppose : I could make it so that walking over a weapon you already have gives you : it's ammo, the old way I just got rid of, *in addition* to the new way, so : that if you happen across a real Havok Rifle or Shock Staff, you get it's : ammo; you'll just never happen across them in solo play. That way netmap : makers can just place weapons around, not their ammo, and everything will : take care of itself. (You'll still need to place ammo for the Human and : Jjaro weapons). : Do the (non-TC) ammo limits still hold in (non-TC) netgames? Or can you carry : infinite ammo?

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Two-Function Disappearing Weapon?	Forrest of B.org	10/1/06 12:51 p.m.
Re: Two-Function Disappearing Weapon?	kyjel	10/1/06 2:13 p.m.
Re: Two-Function Disappearing Weapon?	Forrest of B.org	10/1/06 7:50 p.m.
A related question...	Forrest of B.org	10/2/06 1:01 p.m.
Re: A related question...	RyokoTK	10/2/06 1:17 p.m.
Re: A related question...	goran	10/3/06 9:27 a.m.
Re: A related question...	Forrest of B.org	10/3/06 2:04 p.m.
Re: A related question...	D-M.A.	10/3/06 7:17 p.m.
A related answer	Forrest of B.org	10/4/06 7:40 a.m.
Re: A related answer	treellama	10/4/06 8:41 a.m.
Re: A related answer	Forrest of B.org	10/4/06 9:50 a.m.
Re: A related answer	RyokoTK	10/4/06 1:05 p.m.
Re: A related answer	RyokoTK	10/4/06 1:06 p.m.
Re: A related question...	goran	10/4/06 6:26 a.m.
Re: A related question...	Forrest of B.org	10/4/06 7:20 a.m.



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	Message: : Brilliance! How did I miss that? : The M2/Infinity Enforcer weapon is now officially known as the: : "WILLFUL-ISSUE NAPALM CANNON" or "N-CANNON" for short. : The "WILLFUL-ISSUE SCATTER RIFLE" (M1 Enforcer weapon) is also : to be abbreviated to "S-RIFLE" for short. : Also, regarding this whole problem, I came up with a solution last night. : The Willful-issue (Enforcer) weapons work just as they originally did. You : can only carry one of them, they use no ammo (don't reload), random ammo : on pickup, disappear after use. : The Aggregate-issue (Fighter and Trooper) weapons can carry up to three ammo : clips each (three of each kind, both bullets and grenades, for the Havok : Rifle), random ammo on pickup, no disappearing after use. I've changed the : Lua scripting so that if you pick up any of the Pfhor weapons' ammo and : you don't already have that weapon, it swaps the ammo for that weapon; : otherwise, you just get more ammo, up to your max limit. (The Havok Rifle : ammo will also give you a grenade clip if you've already got the weapon). : Ammo looks just like the weapons, so as best as you can tell in game, : you're getting ammo from dropped weapons; but you don't have the problem : that you pick up weapons and they just vanish if you're already maxed out : on ammo. They'll just lay there and you can come back and get more of them : later. On TC, since there's no ammo limit, you can carry as many of them : as you want. : I think this gives a nice balance between the two TC gameplay style concerns : (since the S-Rifle, one of the best weapons in the game, still requires : you to go find another one; so does the N-Cannon, if you really want to : use that). It also solves all of the bugginess with my Lua scripting, and : leaves the weapons in a state where you could scatter them around a netmap : and not have any Lua scripting involved and they would still work. : Although the Aggregate weapons wouldn't disappear after use, and their ammo : looks just like the weapons themselves, so... that could be a little : funky. Either you run out of ammo and the weapon is useless until you die, : or you'd be running around and some 'weapons' (ammo) you pick up would : give you ammo while others that looked just like them wouldn't. I suppose : I could make it so that walking over a weapon you already have gives you : it's ammo, the old way I just got rid of, in addition to the new way, so : that if you happen across a real Havok Rifle or Shock Staff, you get it's : ammo; you'll just never happen across them in solo play. That way netmap : makers can just place weapons around, not their ammo, and everything will : take care of itself. (You'll still need to place ammo for the Human and : Jjaro weapons). : Do the (non-TC) ammo limits still hold in (non-TC) netgames? Or can you carry : infinite ammo?
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