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	Re: Eternally Bored
	Posted By: Steve Levinson	Date: 8/8/04 8:46 p.m.
	In Response To: Re: Eternally Bored (Forrest of B.org) : I never really thought of Marathon as all that metallic. Sure, it's obviously : metal in some places, but the entire thing was carved out of a moon - I : always thought it was mostly shaped rock, basically concrete like you : said. There are three materials used in my Marathon texture set, a : canvas-like stuff used for wallpaper in "cleaner" areas, a : concrete-like stuff for floors and such, and that dented metal which is : obviously metal. And again, a lot of people have said they think it does : resemble the Marathon much more than I even tried to make it, so unless I : get a lot more people with this same complaint I'm gonna chalk this up to : artistic differences of opinion. You're right about one thing - the Marathon should have more concrete and less metal than we see in M1. More important is the "feel" of a damaged colony ship. Flickering lights, debries, bodies and the like. And your maps look too sanitized and too bright to be the Marathon. Remember, lighting is everything. : The hints are all around in the terminals and I think it's pretty obvious so : I'll just tell you what's up: it's a race against time. (The network is : resynching soon and you have to smash the relay before it does). The timer : starts when you push the first switch to exit that opening arena, and then : you have 3 minutes 14 seconds to smash both sets of wires and reach the : exit terminal. You can avoid most of the monsters on that level if you : just run around them, there's only I think... 11 total past the opening : arena that you actually have to confront directly (4 hunters, 3 compilers, : 4 troopers), and those are usually alone and straight ahead of you so you : can just throw shots at them while you keep running. We're not used to the timing element in Marathon, so most of us don't take speed seriously. Rubicon was the exception, but at least Chris made it clear and even showed a count-down display at the beginning, but this wouldn't be practical in Eternal. Overall, I like the way you implemented this, but I still haven't been able to beat it in about a dozen tries. There are two problems on TC - it takes too long to kill the monsters that you have to confront, and there isn't enough ammo to do it. I find myself constantly running back to grab dropped AR's, loosing precious seconds. Perhaps I need to try it on a lower difficulty level - after all, there's no reward for playing on TC the way there is with other scenarios. You may want to rethink this - TC usually allows the player to pick up unlimited amounts of ammo, making it worthwhile to play on a higher difficulty. I don't know if AO could be scripted to allow the player to "reload" from dropped weapons rather than to discard the old and pick up the new, but something needs to be done to compensate for the increased difficulty on TC, particularly on this level. : (I try to make my timed-split levels actually hard to beat in time, both : because I want a good number of people to see the Failure branch, and also : because the one or two of those in Rubicon, I managed to wander my way : randomly around and get out of them in plenty of time with barely any : effort, so I thought it should be a little more pressing in Eternal). I have no problem with this, provided it's beatable on TC. You need to beta test everything on all difficulty levles - again, I'd be happy to help with the TC end of things.

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	Eternally Bored	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 7:57 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Simon of team Sigma	8/8/04 9:24 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	deathmonger	8/8/04 12:01 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/8/04 12:10 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Mr. Cactus	8/8/04 12:26 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	blake37	8/8/04 1:11 p.m.
	RE: Eternally Bored	Blayne	8/8/04 3:45 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	D-M.A.	8/8/04 7:31 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Forrest of B.org	8/8/04 4:24 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 5:39 p.m.
	Oh, and yes, I'm using the 512 high-res textures *NM*	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 6:55 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Forrest of B.org	8/8/04 6:59 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 8:46 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 9:10 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Forrest of B.org	8/8/04 10:00 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Steve Levinson	8/9/04 3:25 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	goran	8/9/04 4:06 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 6:19 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	goran	8/9/04 7:34 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 7:43 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	goran	8/9/04 7:50 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 8:08 a.m.
	Burning in the light of the moon	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 11:32 p.m.
	Re: Burning in the light of the moon	Adam Ashwell	8/10/04 5:02 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Lunair	8/9/04 9:59 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Blayne	8/9/04 2:16 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	goran	8/9/04 3:18 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 6:26 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 6:57 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Steve Levinson	8/10/04 4:41 p.m.
	Don't let this go to your head	Steve Levinson	8/11/04 9:00 a.m.
	Re: Don't let this go to your head	Adam Ashwell	8/11/04 9:21 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 10:30 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored - and bugged	Steve Levinson	8/9/04 5:23 p.m.
	Anyone notice that Enforcers can't kill you? *NM*	a disreputable source	8/8/04 8:20 p.m.
	Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your fault? *NM*	Steve Levinson	8/8/04 8:48 p.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Forrest of B.org	8/8/04 10:02 p.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Ori	8/8/04 11:10 p.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	goran	8/9/04 12:58 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 5:57 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	blake37	8/9/04 6:03 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 6:03 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Yossarian	8/9/04 6:55 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs - Ernie, is this your faul	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 7:03 a.m.
	Re: Yes - 1 of the bugs	Blayne	8/9/04 3:40 p.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 5:40 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 5:41 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	goran	8/9/04 7:44 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Johannes Gunnar	8/9/04 8:04 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 8:06 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 9:04 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 9:16 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 9:25 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 9:41 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 9:45 a.m.
	I hate this title	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 2:09 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 2:27 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 2:49 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Forrest of B.org	8/9/04 3:00 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 3:05 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 3:13 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	goran	8/9/04 4:07 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Adam Ashwell	8/9/04 4:12 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	blake37	8/9/04 3:50 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	deathmonger	8/9/04 5:11 p.m.
	I'd hate to see you *really* fly off the handle	Steve Levinson	8/9/04 6:03 p.m.
	A lesson for us all	Plague Bearer aka Nick	8/9/04 8:09 p.m.
	Re: A lesson for us all	D-M.A.	8/10/04 8:34 a.m.
	Re: A lesson for us all	blake37	8/10/04 8:44 a.m.
	Trojan infected PC = porn spam bot *NM*	D-M.A.	8/10/04 9:33 a.m.
	fun, i'll send your comp a get well card	blake37	8/10/04 11:06 a.m.
	Re: Trojan infected PC = porn spam bot	deathmonger	8/10/04 12:17 p.m.
	Re: I hate this title	Jacke	8/10/04 5:16 a.m.
	Re: I hate this title	D-M.A.	8/10/04 8:26 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	blake37	8/9/04 6:02 a.m.
	On TC, everything attacks from the start *NM*	Steve Levinson	8/9/04 5:42 p.m.
	ok, then im just a wuss ;-) *NM*	blake37	8/10/04 4:17 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	Forrest of B.org	8/10/04 8:10 a.m.
	Re: Eternally Bored	blake37	8/10/04 8:34 a.m.

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