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Re: welp, i posted a comment
Posted By: Hawaiian PigDate: 4/18/10 8:10 p.m.

In Response To: Re: welp, i posted a comment (Cody Miller)


: This is where you are incorrect. Every game is still fundamentally based on
: competition of some sort, namely reaching the end of a level, killing bad
: guys, solving puzzles, or finding items. Such things are in the very
: nature of the video game.

: Video games are games. The medium is not young. We already know how to craft
: amazingly complex fun games. Compare Street Fighter 4 to Karate Fighter
: and Starcraft 2 to Herzog Zwei and tell me games haven't matured
: immensely.

you missed the entire point of the post. you're missing the fact that the term "video games" has extended beyond games and into interactive media on the whole.

: Games do not have to be expensive to produce. It cost the same to scan a
: sprite into the computer at 1080p as it does at 480p. It's only our
: obsession with cutting edge 3D graphics that makes game cost more.

the ones ebert is aware of are expensive to produce

: Such an experience is fundamentally flawed, since by giving the player
: control you relinquish your control as an artist to determine how your
: work is presented. And so it suffers over not giving your audience control
: at all.

Does a painter control how his art is presented? Maybe da Vinci wanted everyone to view the Mona Lisa upside down. Every artist relinquishes control of their art once its produced; interpretation is the cornerstone of art. It's why art is about invoking specific senses or emotions. You don't make music to achieve some lofty "art" label, you make music to encourage specific emotions. These "interactive experiences" (since you refuse to call them games) are just as wide open as you want them to be as an artist.

Come on dude.


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(F)ART OR NOT?Miguel Chavez 4/18/10 4:06 a.m.
     Re: (F)ART OR NOT?NsU Soldier 4/18/10 6:19 a.m.
     (F)ART *NM*hyokin 4/18/10 7:14 a.m.
     Re: (F)ART OR NOT?DHalo 4/18/10 9:03 a.m.
     Vague, abstract terms are just headaches!Leviathan 4/18/10 12:16 p.m.
           Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches!Jillybean 4/18/10 3:10 p.m.
           Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches!Cody Miller 4/18/10 7:01 p.m.
                 BLAAAAAAAAAAAHRiceatron 4/18/10 7:30 p.m.
                       Re: BLAAAAAAAAAAAHCody Miller 4/18/10 7:47 p.m.
                             Re: BLAAAAAAAAAAAHRiceatron 4/18/10 7:51 p.m.
                 Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches!Leviathan 4/18/10 9:16 p.m.
     Re: (F)ART OR NOT?General Vagueness 4/18/10 1:28 p.m.
           Re: (F)ART OR NOT?General Vagueness 4/18/10 1:30 p.m.
           Re: (F)ART OR NOT?SonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 1:46 p.m.
                 Re: (F)ART OR NOT?General Vagueness 4/18/10 2:27 p.m.
                       Re: (F)ART OR NOT?SonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 3:29 p.m.
     A view from outside HBOSonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 4:54 p.m.
           cut/paste failSonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 4:56 p.m.
           Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamersHawaiian Pig 4/18/10 5:24 p.m.
                 Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamersSonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 6:03 p.m.
                       welp, i posted a commentHawaiian Pig 4/18/10 7:45 p.m.
                             Re: welp, i posted a commentCody Miller 4/18/10 7:59 p.m.
                                   Re: welp, i posted a commentHawaiian Pig 4/18/10 8:10 p.m.
                                         Cody.Riceatron 4/18/10 8:57 p.m.
                                         Re: welp, i posted a commentCody Miller 4/18/10 9:20 p.m.
                                               JRPGs don't give up a lot of control bro *NM*Hawaiian Pig 4/18/10 9:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: JRPGs don't give up a lot of control broGeneral Vagueness 4/18/10 10:08 p.m.
                                                           Re: JRPGs don't give up a lot of control broHawaiian Pig 4/18/10 10:39 p.m.
                                               Re: welp, i posted a commentSonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 9:38 p.m.
                             Re: welp, i posted a commentLeviathan 4/18/10 8:29 p.m.
                                   Re: welp, i posted a commentSonofMacPhisto 4/18/10 9:02 p.m.
                 Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamersGeneral Vagueness 4/18/10 9:34 p.m.
     Re: (F)ART OR NOT?Cody Miller 4/18/10 6:47 p.m.
           Re: (F)ART OR NOT?NsU Soldier 4/18/10 7:08 p.m.
     Re: (F)ART OR NOT?ThorsHammer 4/19/10 8:50 a.m.
     What about this?Avateur 4/21/10 4:34 a.m.



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