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Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! | |
Posted By: Cody Miller <speedruns@codymiller.org> | Date: 4/18/10 7:01 p.m. |
In Response To: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! (Leviathan) : So if I respond that games, like Braid, have fulfilled all the categories : that Mr. Ebert says it fails in, and games can be art, then what? Well, Braid was a bad game though. As a puzzle platformer it provided simple puzzles, albeit unique ones, and dismal platforming. So if it's one of the best examples we're in trouble. : It's just a lot of people getting in a hoopla about what you call a thing, it
The only reason people get in a hoopla is that game developers feel they have to justify their creations as something more than just games. Not content with realizing that toys and games (which are what they are making) can be very important as leisure, fun, and intellectual pursuit, they want to be respected as other things such as film are. Boy does the games industry envy film! : If I had to try and defend it... : I think one of the main problems video games face in being validated as art
It's the perfect term. Video games are just games that rely on electronic and visual feedback. They are nothing more than games people. : Braid may have structured itself like a Mario side-scroller (oh how that
LOL. Go play Metal Gear Solid 2 for a real postmodern videogame, and one that actually has something to say. : Ebert says he doesn't understand the need for 'gamers' to have their medium
I quite frankly don't understand their need either, yet I'm not going to say games aren't art. : I'm not saying to not be critical, but instead of spending time arguing about
Basically yes. Stop trying to make art and just go make a good game please.
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(F)ART OR NOT? | Miguel Chavez | 4/18/10 4:06 a.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | NsU Soldier | 4/18/10 6:19 a.m. |
(F)ART *NM* | hyokin | 4/18/10 7:14 a.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | DHalo | 4/18/10 9:03 a.m. |
Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! | Leviathan | 4/18/10 12:16 p.m. |
Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! | Jillybean | 4/18/10 3:10 p.m. |
Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! | Cody Miller | 4/18/10 7:01 p.m. |
BLAAAAAAAAAAAH | Riceatron | 4/18/10 7:30 p.m. |
Re: BLAAAAAAAAAAAH | Cody Miller | 4/18/10 7:47 p.m. |
Re: BLAAAAAAAAAAAH | Riceatron | 4/18/10 7:51 p.m. |
Re: Vague, abstract terms are just headaches! | Leviathan | 4/18/10 9:16 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | General Vagueness | 4/18/10 1:28 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | General Vagueness | 4/18/10 1:30 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 1:46 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | General Vagueness | 4/18/10 2:27 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 3:29 p.m. |
A view from outside HBO | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 4:54 p.m. |
cut/paste fail | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 4:56 p.m. |
Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamers | Hawaiian Pig | 4/18/10 5:24 p.m. |
Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamers | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 6:03 p.m. |
welp, i posted a comment | Hawaiian Pig | 4/18/10 7:45 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | Cody Miller | 4/18/10 7:59 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | Hawaiian Pig | 4/18/10 8:10 p.m. |
Cody. | Riceatron | 4/18/10 8:57 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | Cody Miller | 4/18/10 9:20 p.m. |
JRPGs don't give up a lot of control bro *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 4/18/10 9:24 p.m. |
Re: JRPGs don't give up a lot of control bro | General Vagueness | 4/18/10 10:08 p.m. |
Re: JRPGs don't give up a lot of control bro | Hawaiian Pig | 4/18/10 10:39 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 9:38 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | Leviathan | 4/18/10 8:29 p.m. |
Re: welp, i posted a comment | SonofMacPhisto | 4/18/10 9:02 p.m. |
Re: A view from those asshole Hardcore gamers | General Vagueness | 4/18/10 9:34 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | Cody Miller | 4/18/10 6:47 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | NsU Soldier | 4/18/10 7:08 p.m. |
Re: (F)ART OR NOT? | ThorsHammer | 4/19/10 8:50 a.m. |
What about this? | Avateur | 4/21/10 4:34 a.m. |
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