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Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!
Posted By: kapowaz <halo.bungie.org@kapowaz.net>Date: 12/15/02 9:30 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power! (Louis Wu)

: Customization options are there to allow everyone to choose the way they
: want to see things. If we were all the same person, they wouldn't be
: necessary... but I can GUARANTEE you that if you had this forum set up
: EXACTLY the way you liked it, I'd probably never come back. I wouldn't
: blame it on a broken interface, though, unless you simply removed any
: customization options.

: What you're saying here is that any website that offers you the option to
: customize the data displayed to your own tastes is, by default, busted at
: the outset and simply giving you ways around the problem. That's the most
: negative spin I've ever heard applied to choice .

No, there is a distinct difference between customisation and a default interface that isn't user friendly, especially when the interface presented to other users affects the overall system.

Let me demonstrate by example. If I choose to use a view on this forum that more suits my preferences and only shows the initial posting in each thread, I save myself a lot of loading time, and threads which attract a lot of responses don't push other threads with less attraction to the bottom of the screen, or another page.

Now that's fine for me, but if I post a subject which doesn't attract much attention, and another post made shortly afterwards does attract a large number of replies, what happens? To me, there is no difference. Each post is equally visible. But to everyone else who hasn't made the same interface change as myself, there is a massive difference; the post may have disappeared to the bottom of the screen, or be on another page entirely. This means that the default interface can negatively impact the overall forum, regardless of what choice I make.

: You don't like the fact that the default display is 1 week (which leads to
: large load times)? Blame that on my laziness - it was set when this forum
: opened , in May 1999, and we got a few hundred posts a week.

: Now we get a few hundred posts a DAY - you're right, I should have reduced
: the default display to 2 or 3 days. I never did, though - because I'm
: lazy, and because it's just as easy for you to do it. (And because many
: people who visit here are on fast connections, and LIKE a full week's
: display at once.)

Careful now, you sound like you're personally offended at my comments...that wasn't the intention at all.

: I'm having trouble getting my mind around your concepts of useability. I
: really, really, really want to see some examples of your web design.

If you really do want to see, I'll show you some. Email me and I'll send you some back.

The previous post I made was meant to be my last. Hopefully this one will be... I don't like the negative way my views have reflected on the forum, which for all it's faults I do enjoy using and reading. I would like to think I've provided constructive criticism, rather than criticism without need. Let's leave it at that shall we?


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Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/15/02 12:42 p.m.
     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 12:56 p.m.
           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/15/02 12:56 p.m.
                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Count Zero 12/15/02 1:11 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/15/02 1:13 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!oddworld18 12/15/02 1:16 p.m.
                                   the great forum style debate *ahem*kapowaz 12/15/02 1:21 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Count Zero 12/15/02 2:29 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 1:18 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Mutti 12/15/02 2:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 2:15 p.m.
                                         Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 9:00 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 8:52 p.m.
                                   my last post on the subject (long)kapowaz 12/15/02 9:22 p.m.
                                         Re: my last post on the subject (long)Louis Wu 12/15/02 9:40 p.m.
                                         Re: my last post on the subject (long)vector40 12/15/02 10:25 p.m.
                                         Re: my last post on the subject (long)Sephlock 12/16/02 6:15 a.m.
           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Lion 12/15/02 3:31 p.m.
                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 4:47 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Lion 12/15/02 5:14 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 5:51 p.m.
                                   Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 9:03 p.m.
                                         Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 9:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!vector40 12/15/02 10:27 p.m.
     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Lion 12/15/02 2:05 p.m.
           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/16/02 6:21 a.m.
     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!mnemesis 12/15/02 2:56 p.m.
     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 5:04 p.m.
           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 5:09 p.m.
                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 5:56 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!oddworld18 12/15/02 6:21 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 6:22 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 6:21 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 6:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sep7imus 12/15/02 7:18 p.m.
                                         Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 8:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Red Loser 12/15/02 9:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/16/02 6:29 a.m.
                                               Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 9:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 9:30 p.m.
                                                           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!vector40 12/15/02 10:37 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!vector40 12/15/02 10:42 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/15/02 11:08 p.m.
                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 9:06 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 9:29 p.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!oddworld18 12/15/02 10:20 p.m.
                                   Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 10:43 p.m.
                                         Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 10:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/15/02 11:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Nick 12/15/02 11:35 p.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/16/02 6:32 a.m.
     Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Wraith7n 12/15/02 8:56 p.m.
           Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sephlock 12/16/02 6:25 a.m.
                 Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Sep7imus 12/16/02 8:12 a.m.
                       Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!Louis Wu 12/16/02 9:04 a.m.
                             Re: Louis! Mnemesis! Anyone with power!kapowaz 12/16/02 11:03 a.m.
                                   *Hint*Nick 12/16/02 3:01 p.m.
                                         Re: *Hint*kapowaz 12/16/02 3:27 p.m.
                                               Re: *Hint*Nick 12/16/02 4:46 p.m.
                                                     Re: *Hint*kapowaz 12/16/02 5:34 p.m.
                                                           Re: *Hint*Nick 12/16/02 6:53 p.m.
     DieDjof 12/16/02 12:04 p.m.
           wave the flagAndrew Nagy 12/16/02 1:02 p.m.
     This is one of the longest threads I've seen here! *NM*Nick 12/16/02 4:45 p.m.



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