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Re: Finally Someone With Reason
Posted By: Shishka <shishka@mac.com>Date: 6/18/02 8:12 p.m.

In Response To: Finally Someone With Reason (XBOX)

: Agreed. I believe it will happen (just not soon), but they are so quite and
: vague in their comments. And the whole thing with the MS PR guy, I
: believe. I'd doubt he would sit there getting interviewed and lie about
: what he said about Halo PC port status. Like Matt has suggested, with no
: proof to backup that he was lying. At least, tangible proof.

: I'd go along with a late 2003 release as a guess.

...What the hell exactly do you want to hear Bungie say?

"Chris Butcher has just created another pointer in VC++. It's gonna be in Halo, for something."

Christ, folks, I've never, NEVER heard of a company posting it's goddamn code just to prove it's developing a game. And yet, that seems to be exactly what you all want to see? Why? What difference does it make?

And what exactly are they supposed to show you, if not code? Game play screens? Even if they did, 95% of you would say "Bungie's lying and are just using XBox screenshots!" And what would be your evidence? Because it looks like the XBox screenshots? And WHY would it look like the XBox Screens?

BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME DAMN GAME

Matt doesn't update because there's NOTHING TO UPDATE ABOUT. If you want to know what the game is like, go read Matt's weekly updates from before. There's a year's worth from them. All though, you can skip over all the "took this out, put this in" stuff, because it's safe to say that they're not changing their game at all. As such, there's NOTHING to show anyone, because we've all ready SEEN IT. I hate to tell you this, but I KNOW HOW PC HALO ENDS.

So, the only thing left to demand of Bungie is screenshots of the code. To which ANY developer would reply "FUCK YOU VERY MUCH SIR AND/OR MA'AM."

And, for the jillionth time, THE GAME IS NOT BEING PORTED. It's being rewritten from the ground up. And guess what? That means it'd take longer than a couple months for a home computer release. Because I'm all typy right now, I'll give you some things to chew on, as to why they might have chosen to do this:

1. Ever stick Halo in your PC? Notice you can't play? Notice there are NO XBox emu's available? Halo is an XBox game, and as such is designed to work with the XBox software, which is highly proprietary. Even the media, the DVD-ROMs, aren't your normal DVD media.

2. That means, that not only do they have to make the game so that it's compatible with MORE THAN ONE brand of hardware, they also have to choose a new media to place the game on. Halo could probably take up 5 CD-ROMs very, very easily.

3. Also regarding hardware, they have to understand that not everyone's hardware is XBox-level. Not everyone has a GeForce 3 or better under their hood. As such, they have to create system options so that people can make the game run on their personal machine. If they left the game as it is now, perpixel everything, and all that perpixel goodness ONLY for GeForce 3 cards, That'd leave everyone that doesn't have a GeForce3 or higher out of the running. People with ATI cards may not even be able to play, let alone with all the vertex shading magic. They can't just make the game for one machine and know that it'll work for any and all anymore. They can't just code and find out, they have to research this stuff, as well.

4. Bungie plans on making both a Mac and Windows version of Halo. While Macs have options that are an awful lot like Direct X, as of just recently, the Mac OS, particularly X, all but revolves around OpenGL. Assuming they stick with what OS X knows best, that means they've got two API's to program for. That'll take time as well! It's almost safe to say that they are writing TWO versions of Halo from the ground up. And Bungie isn't the kind of developer that would "release a version for PC, and then follow up with the Mac a year later." Bungie will sit on the game until both the Mac and PC versions are completely ready to go.

5. X and Classic OS are two different operating systems. If they plan to make a classic and carbonized version of halo for the mac, than you can say it adds up to 2 and a half games they're planning on releasing at the same time.

Consider all that, and you still act like you DESERVE something more than what they've said... If you still act like a direct quote from Bungie saying "We are working on it" doesn't mean "We are working on it" means you're probably too stupid to play the game anyhow. Go back to Counterstrike and leave us the hell alone.

-S

PS- Matt, how'd I do this time? ;P


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Why are people so sure Halo will be ported to PC?MeStinkBAD 6/17/02 9:15 a.m.
     What?Dalan Galma 6/17/02 10:20 a.m.
           Re: What?XBOX 6/18/02 1:58 p.m.
     Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported to ferrex 6/17/02 12:27 p.m.
           OMG There's another vague one! *NM*El Bastard™ 6/17/02 2:42 p.m.
           Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toStormsinger 6/17/02 3:32 p.m.
     Blam! *NM*Pfhoenix 6/17/02 2:27 p.m.
           You're mom, people, you're mom *NM*Pfhoenix 6/18/02 8:44 p.m.
                 ugh, wy doe ie botehr? *NM*Pfhoenix 6/18/02 8:45 p.m.
                       Re: ugh, wy doe ie botehr?NthDegree256 6/19/02 1:38 a.m.
           Your Mom! *NM*NthDegree256 6/19/02 1:38 a.m.
                 Dink! *NM*Da Loaph 6/19/02 2:11 a.m.
     Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported tovector40 6/17/02 2:59 p.m.
     Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported tomashthekeyboard 6/17/02 4:16 p.m.
           Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toXBOX 6/18/02 2:10 p.m.
     Knowledge-Enforcer(tm), ENGAGE! *NM*Uriel 6/17/02 6:09 p.m.
     Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported to Gabrys 6/18/02 3:44 a.m.
           Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported tovector40 6/18/02 4:59 a.m.
                 Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toGabrys 6/18/02 6:18 a.m.
                       Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toLouis Wu 6/18/02 8:14 a.m.
                             Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toGabrys 6/18/02 8:49 a.m.
                                   Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toLouis Wu 6/18/02 9:38 a.m.
                                         Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported toGabrys 6/18/02 11:39 a.m.
                                               Why are you so sure it's not?Roger Wilco 6/18/02 12:12 p.m.
                                               Wake upmnemesis 6/18/02 4:03 p.m.
                                                     good point *NM*Gabrys 6/18/02 4:42 p.m.
                                         Re: Why are people so sure Halo will be ported to *NM*XBOX 6/18/02 2:06 p.m.
     Finally Someone With ReasonXBOX 6/18/02 1:55 p.m.
           Re: Finally Someone With ReasonShishka 6/18/02 8:12 p.m.
                 You tell 'em *NM*Pfhoenix 6/18/02 8:48 p.m.
           Re: Finally Someone With ReasonMatt 6/18/02 9:20 p.m.
                 Matt's got your reason right here. *zip*Shishka 6/18/02 9:43 p.m.
                 Re: Finally Someone With ReasonXBOX 6/18/02 9:50 p.m.
                       Re: Finally Someone With ReasonCount Zero 6/18/02 10:10 p.m.
                       Re: Finally Someone With ReasonShishka 6/18/02 10:14 p.m.
                             Re: Finally Someone With ReasonXBOX 6/18/02 10:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Finally Someone With Reasonvector40 6/18/02 10:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Finally Someone With ReasonShishka 6/18/02 11:14 p.m.
                                               Re: Finally Someone With ReasonJacke 6/20/02 8:21 a.m.



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