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Re: not informed properly enough for that rant
Posted By: DEEP NNN <deep_nnn@hotmail.com>Date: 10/30/12 6:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: not informed properly enough for that rant (Cody Miller)


: The system is flawed game design from the get go.

: The most obvious flaw is that these give the player an advantage in certain
: situations, yet they are not equally available to all players based on the
: fact that only limited edition buyers get them first. That means on day 1,
: there will be certain players disadvantaged not by their skill, but by the
: package they bought.

: The worst flaw though, is that these are ostensibly supposed to enhance the
: game. If that's true, why hide them behind player reward systems? If they
: make the game better - that is offer more choice, depth, and complexity -
: then why are they not available to everyone form the get go? Why would you
: want people playing a version of the game without them, which would
: therefore offer less choice, depth and complexity?

: The answer is that 343 is not employing good game designers who actually
: understand what makes a good game, but instead want to waste your time
: with player investment systems. If anybody reading can only listen to
: one thing I say, listen to this: Player investment systems are
: detrimental to you, and to the game .

How can you be taken seriously when you have such extreme views? How do you know that it reasonably possible for an LE owner to reach level 50 in one day? First I've heard of this. The least you could have done is used a more reasonable time frame. I.E. On average LE owners may earn one extra speciaization over the first 24 days.

My own experience is the Challenge reward system in REACH simply offers me just that. A challenge and a reward. I still rise to the challenge even though I no longer need anything more out of it. I can't even attain Inheritor, yet I still look at the challenges to see if there is something that interests me. A complete waste of time, yet I enjoy it.

I can't get my head around your way of thinking, most times. This is certainly one of those times.

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Specializations: What's In It For Me?*rant*Morpheus 10/30/12 5:19 p.m.
     Re: Specializations: What's In It For Me?*rant*Chewbaccawakka 10/30/12 5:32 p.m.
     Re: Specializations: What's In It For Me?*rant*Echoes 10/30/12 5:39 p.m.
           not informed properly enough for that rantnillapuddin 10/30/12 5:47 p.m.
                 Re: not informed properly enough for that rantMorpheus 10/30/12 5:58 p.m.
                 Re: not informed properly enough for that rantCody Miller 10/30/12 6:10 p.m.
                       NO NO NO NO NO NO NOnillapuddin 10/30/12 6:19 p.m.
                             Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOCody Miller 10/30/12 6:22 p.m.
                                   Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOnillapuddin 10/30/12 6:29 p.m.
                                         Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOuberfoop 10/30/12 6:42 p.m.
                                               Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOCody Miller 10/30/12 6:47 p.m.
                                                     player investment system = the devil.nillapuddin 10/30/12 7:01 p.m.
                                                           Re: player investment system = the devil.DEEP NNN 10/30/12 7:36 p.m.
                                                           Stand Fast nilla!!!Bryan Newman 10/30/12 7:39 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Stand Fast nilla!!!uberfoop 10/30/12 7:42 p.m.
                                                                 why bothernillapuddin 10/30/12 7:45 p.m.
                                                                       Another addition to the top 10NartFOpc 10/30/12 7:58 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Stand Fast nilla!!!Avateur 10/30/12 10:44 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Stand Fast nilla!!!Ragashingo 10/30/12 11:41 p.m.
                                                           Re: player investment system = the devil.Avateur 10/30/12 10:42 p.m.
                                         Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOSIX min WHISTLE 10/30/12 7:03 p.m.
                                               Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOApollo 10/30/12 7:08 p.m.
                                                     Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NONotTheVacuum 10/30/12 7:11 p.m.
                                                           Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOuberfoop 10/30/12 7:17 p.m.
                                               Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOCasimir 10/31/12 8:49 a.m.
                                                     Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NONotTheVacuum 10/31/12 9:33 a.m.
                                                           Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOCasimir 10/31/12 12:37 p.m.
                                                                 Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOuberfoop 10/31/12 12:43 p.m.
                                                     Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOKalamari 10/31/12 11:42 a.m.
                                         Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOkapowaz 10/31/12 7:37 a.m.
                             Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NOCody Miller 10/30/12 6:28 p.m.
                       Re: not informed properly enough for that rantDEEP NNN 10/30/12 6:33 p.m.
                       Re: not informed properly enough for that rantNotTheVacuum 10/30/12 6:43 p.m.
                             Re: not informed properly enough for that rantuberfoop 10/30/12 6:47 p.m.
                                   Re: not informed properly enough for that rantNotTheVacuum 10/30/12 6:52 p.m.
                                         Re: not informed properly enough for that rantuberfoop 10/30/12 6:58 p.m.
                                               Quite frankly...INSANEdrive 10/30/12 7:28 p.m.
                                         Re: not informed properly enough for that rantGravemind 10/30/12 7:45 p.m.
                                               Re: not informed properly enough for that rantNotTheVacuum 10/30/12 8:19 p.m.
                                                     Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz. *NM*uberfoop 10/30/12 9:51 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.Gravemind 10/31/12 2:10 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.NotTheVacuum 10/31/12 2:36 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.Cody Miller 10/31/12 3:31 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.NotTheVacuum 10/31/12 3:33 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.Cody Miller 10/31/12 3:36 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.NotTheVacuum 10/31/12 3:42 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.bluerunner 10/31/12 4:08 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.SonofMacPhisto 10/31/12 4:31 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.NotTheVacuum 10/31/12 6:43 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.bluerunner 10/31/12 6:48 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.NotTheVacuum 10/31/12 7:02 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.uberfoop 10/31/12 6:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Bleh, linguistics and all that jazz.Ragashingo 10/31/12 3:37 p.m.
                       Player Investment Systems aren't bad...RC Master 10/30/12 8:24 p.m.
                             I'd rather not put myself in a skinner box.hunt3r 10/30/12 8:39 p.m.
                                   You're already in oneRC Master 10/30/12 8:47 p.m.
                                         Re: You're already in oneNotTheVacuum 10/30/12 9:03 p.m.
                                         Re: You're already in oneHoovaloov 10/30/12 10:32 p.m.
     Re: Specializations: What's In It For Me?*rant*DHalo 10/30/12 11:53 p.m.
           THANK You, DH.Morpheus 10/31/12 10:57 a.m.
                 Re: THANK You, DH.JDQuackers 10/31/12 11:01 a.m.
                       Re: THANK You, DH.Morpheus 10/31/12 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: THANK You, DH.bluerunner 10/31/12 11:05 a.m.



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