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Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 1/9/12 8:41 a.m.

In Response To: Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo * (pete_the_duck)


: I think you clearly put a lot of thought into this, and I can appreciate
: that, but I don't think any of your suggestions would improve the Reach
: experience.

: #1 - Voting in Reach is fair. Everybody gets to vote and all votes are equal.
: If I voted for a least popular option, that's life. It doesn't need to be
: any more complicated than that.

: You're trying to address a problem that I'm not convinced exists by
: complicating a simple mechanic, which in itself has the potential to cause
: frustration and confusion--and I'm not sure it would even fix the proposed
: problem in the first place.

: I mean, you're telling me that the current voting system is causing the
: majority of players to intentionally vote for maps and gametypes that they
: don't want to play? I don't buy that.

: #2 - If you are being beat so badly that you want to quit, quit . You won't
: be banned for quitting every now and again.

: A surrender option could be exploited, spoil the experience for the winning
: team, and simply isn't necessary.

: What if 5/6 players want to quit, but the hold-out vote is an AFK guy?
: What if every CTF game that went 2-0 suddenly ended? While the winning
: team was driving the flag back to base for the 3rd capture ?
: What if a random and his guest quit before the game actually starts and the
: other team immediately surrenders? All of that after several minutes of
: searching for players, voting, new round of voting, loading map,
: blackscreen? Congratulations, you just wasted 4 minutes of your life and
: didn't get to play any Halo.

: #3 - Do you really expect me to read all that in the middle of a game? I
: think the betrayal boot trigger could probably use some work, yeah--but I
: would keep the functionality of it the same as it is now. With your
: system, I'd know: ok, I can betray this guy twice and he can't do anything
: about it. Now THAT would be annoying--to have literally no way to boot
: someone as long as they didn't get magic betrayal #3 on you.

: #4/5 - I don't really care about credit incentives. They don't influence my
: decisions and at this point in Reach's lifespan, I would be surprised if
: they would really have any effect on matchmaking behavior. I would like to
: see more credits, sure.. but I don't think it would really be effective
: at addressing quitting--but that's just my opinion.

: #6 - I have quit out of an Infection game that just started because a friend
: just invited me to join their matchmaking party. So, ..I don't want to
: have to wait for the game I just quit out to end, no.

The only change I'd like with the voting system is if there are any equal votes, that it chooses the winning one at random, not the one that's at the top. If I hate the top choice, I'll place a vote to try to get something over it (lesser or two evils) but if I can only get the second selection to equal the first, I'd still lie a 50% chance of it making the one I like rather than by default, the top one.

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New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *IMG*ncsuDuncan 1/9/12 12:01 a.m.
     Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *CyberKN 1/9/12 1:07 a.m.
           Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *General Vagueness 1/9/12 10:04 a.m.
     great articlekidtsunami 1/9/12 1:24 a.m.
     WAAAY overboardRC Master 1/9/12 5:12 a.m.
     Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *pete_the_duck 1/9/12 6:54 a.m.
           Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/9/12 8:41 a.m.
                 Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *General Vagueness 1/9/12 10:08 a.m.
                       Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Revenant1988 1/9/12 10:19 a.m.
                             Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *General Vagueness 1/9/12 1:12 p.m.
                 Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *pete_the_duck 1/9/12 12:40 p.m.
                       Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/9/12 1:16 p.m.
                             Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *General Vagueness 1/9/12 1:45 p.m.
                                   Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/9/12 2:38 p.m.
           Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *ncsuDuncan 1/9/12 9:59 a.m.
                 Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *pete_the_duck 1/9/12 12:36 p.m.
                       Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *ncsuDuncan 1/9/12 1:20 p.m.
     Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map methodRevenant1988 1/9/12 10:14 a.m.
           I forgot one thing:Think of ArenaRevenant1988 1/9/12 10:28 a.m.
                 Re: I forgot one thing:Think of ArenaGeneral Vagueness 1/9/12 1:15 p.m.
           Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map mencsuDuncan 1/9/12 10:33 a.m.
                 Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map meRevenant1988 1/9/12 10:48 a.m.
                 Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map meGeneral Vagueness 1/9/12 1:20 p.m.
           Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map meRC Master 1/9/12 1:20 p.m.
                 Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map meRevenant1988 1/9/12 4:43 p.m.
                       Re: Regarding voting: X for Game type Y for map meGeneral Vagueness 1/9/12 5:31 p.m.
     Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Unique Name 1/9/12 11:33 a.m.
     Article UpdatedncsuDuncan 1/9/12 11:46 a.m.
           Re: Article Updated *VIDs*munky-058 1/9/12 2:07 p.m.
                 Re: Article Updated *VIDs*Revenant1988 1/9/12 4:53 p.m.
     My thoughts.Jennos 1/9/12 7:25 p.m.
     Re: New post at Misriah Solutions: Quitting Halo *Azo 'Galvat 1/9/12 9:55 p.m.



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