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Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a time.
Posted By: RyanTheHeretic <ryan.mcgowan@ntlworld.com>Date: 11/26/10 7:28 p.m.

In Response To: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIM (Riceatron)


: I say they were presented pretty well, especcially in Halo 3. Halo has a
: thing about TELLING not showing, and they told us that Halfjaw's ships had
: to glass half of Africa just to contain a single cruiser of Flood.

Ahhh yes! I've been meaning to return to that little issue! Those remarks have been held in contention for quite some time now, but thanks to Halo: Reach, we've finally got some solid figures to work with.

Let's start from the top. Halo: Reach states that it would take a single CCS-class battlecruiser 15 seconds to glass 1 acre. Let's go from there.

Area of Africa: >30000000km^2
Area of half of Africa: >15000000km^2
Area of half of Africa in acres: >3706580722ac

Total time required for 1 ship firing continuously to glass 1 acre: 15 seconds

Total time required for 1 ship firing continuously to glass half of Africa: 55598710830 seconds/926645180.5 minutes/15444086.342 hours/1763.023555 years.
...for 10 ships firing continuously: >173y
...for 100 ships...: >17y
...for 1000 ships...: >1.7y

Clearly, these figures are massive; *too* massive. For obvious reasons, no more than a day can reasonably pass between contamination and containment, so let's focus in on a 24 hours timeframe.

Total ships required to glass half of Africa within 24 hours: 650000.

Six-hundred-and-fifty-thousand Covenant Battlecruisers double-glazing Africa? We all know Half-Jaw is a bit of a party animal but crowds like that are just unmanageable.

I don't see the need to drag this out any further when the conclusion we're after can safely be drawn from here: Lord Hood was exaggerating on a massive scale. Half-Jaw's ships did not glass "half a continent" - they did not glass half of that, or even half of that; the numbers simply do not allow for it.

Yes, I know a quite a lot of you have believed for some time that he was merely talking up his losses in a spur-of-the-moment rage (quite reasonable, although the scale of his exaggeration is quite ridiculous), but now we can finally put some facts behind this assumption.

Now, we can end it there if you want, but I'd like to take it further. I'd like to see just what percentage of Africa Half-Jaw's fleet could have plausibly glassed in under 24 hours.

To do this, we need to make a few assumptions.

  • We hold true that Half-Jaw was outnumbered 3:1 at The Ark, and that therefore he could not have had more than 100 ships at any given time, as this would invariably lead to a naval engagement as large or likely larger than the one at Reach, something which no character remarks upon or otherwise implies to be true, and which also simply does not fit with the scale of force strength as depicted in-game.
  • New Mombasa is of exactly the same area (or smaller) than the current Mombasa. (>300km^2; >74000ac)
  • Half-Jaw's fleet glasses the area of New Mombasa at the *very minimum*; anything less I refuse to believe would be realistic, given the unprecedented scale of the threat posed by the Flood. To make things easier on myself and Half-Jaw, I'm going to give him Voi as a freebie. Once we've established he can glass that area, we'll move up from there.

Let's do the maths again.

Total time required for 1 ship firing continuously to glass New Mombasa (15*74000/time required to glass 1 acre*number of acres being glassed): 1110000 seconds/308 hours.
Total time required for 150 ships firing continuously to glass New Mombasa: >3 hours.

Don't get ahead of yourself, Half-Jaw. One city does not half a continent make. But it's a good start, so let's see if you can chew what Lord Hood says you're biting off.

Total area of Kenya: 55351605ac
Time required for 1 ship firing continuously to glass Kenya: 830274075 seconds, >230631 hours
Time required for 100 ships firing continuously to glass Kenya: >2300 hours

Well, I think that seals it, really. To effectively sterilise Kenya, Half-Jaw would need a thousand battlecruisers. Not a chance in heck he'd be able to tackle even an eighth of a continent.

There is one final possibility.

The Committee were wrong. I mean, they'd have to be a few exponents wrong, but it's theoretically possible. I hate how glassing has been nerfed, but I'm not going to land myself in another argument over it.


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“Why I Hate Halo” — Eurogamerkapowaz 11/26/10 3:29 a.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerHawaiian Pig 11/26/10 3:35 a.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerArteenEsben 11/26/10 6:44 a.m.
           SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMRiceatron 11/26/10 5:14 p.m.
                 Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIM7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 11/26/10 5:24 p.m.
                       Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMRiceatron 11/26/10 5:30 p.m.
                             Hyperbole. *NM*Leisandir 11/27/10 6:31 p.m.
                 Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMArteenEsben 11/26/10 6:15 p.m.
                       Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMRC Master 11/27/10 6:15 a.m.
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                                   Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMQuirel 11/27/10 8:15 p.m.
                                         Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMBry 11/27/10 9:04 p.m.
                                               Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMRiceatron 11/27/10 9:20 p.m.
                                               Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMLeviathan 11/28/10 9:40 a.m.
                       Really?Riceatron 11/27/10 12:36 p.m.
                             Re: Really?ArteenEsben 11/27/10 4:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Really?Riceatron 11/27/10 9:16 p.m.
                                         Re: Really?ArteenEsben 11/28/10 9:20 a.m.
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                       Re: SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS ANSWERING HIMthebruce0 11/29/10 2:17 p.m.
                 Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a time.RyanTheHeretic 11/26/10 7:28 p.m.
                       Buff glassing imoHawaiian Pig 11/26/10 7:39 p.m.
                       Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiBry 11/26/10 8:12 p.m.
                       Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiGravemind 11/26/10 8:43 p.m.
                             Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiZackDark 11/26/10 9:03 p.m.
                                   This thread is just asking for this. *VID*hyokin 11/27/10 12:38 a.m.
                                         Re: This thread is just asking for this. *VID*Hawaiian Pig 11/27/10 1:37 a.m.
                                               Re: This thread is just asking for this. *VID*hyokin 11/27/10 9:30 a.m.
                             Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiRyanTheHeretic 11/27/10 4:50 a.m.
                             Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiArchilen 11/27/10 5:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Holding Lord Hood to account, one acre at a tiRyanTheHeretic 11/27/10 11:51 a.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerRyanTheHeretic 11/26/10 7:06 a.m.
           Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — Eurogamerkapowaz 11/26/10 7:53 a.m.
                 Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerRyanTheHeretic 11/26/10 8:42 a.m.
                       Reach story just needed more leadZaneZavin 11/26/10 9:12 a.m.
                             Re: Reach story just needed more leadkapowaz 11/26/10 9:46 a.m.
                       Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerHawaiian Pig 11/26/10 3:29 p.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerArchilen 11/26/10 8:02 a.m.
           Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — Eurogamerkapowaz 11/26/10 9:48 a.m.
     Pardon my French, but...Pkmnrulz240 11/26/10 1:48 p.m.
           Re: Pardon my French, but...ArteenEsben 11/26/10 2:26 p.m.
                 Re: Pardon my French, but...Hawaiian Pig 11/26/10 3:33 p.m.
           Re: Pardon my French, but...BanditORR 11/26/10 3:55 p.m.
           Re: Pardon my French, but...kapowaz 11/26/10 5:02 p.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerThorsHammer 11/26/10 2:02 p.m.
     Re: “Why I Hate Halo” — EurogamerGeneral Vagueness 11/26/10 4:45 p.m.



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