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Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators
Posted By: tln <tlniec@hotmail.com>	Date: 10/20/10 9:00 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators (Ibeechu) : With mocap, you don't really have a chance to think about clear posing or : timing. It's literally a reproduction of an actor. : Look at this scene from Halo 3, whose characters had much simpler faces. : She gets the idea to kill herself and Johnson, but you can see the exact : moment, when she looks into his eyes, that she actually understands it. : Then, as her humanity really starts to creep through, she relaxes her arm. : Johnson shouts "Now!" and her military training kicks in. She : straightens her arm and her whole body. You feel her go through every : thought. And she doesn't say a word. It's all in her animation; her : acting. Halo 3 actually had loads of examples like this. Hell, so did Halo : 2, especially with the Arbiter. And they didn't even have Halo 3's facial : rigs back then. I mean, Christ. In Cortana's rescue in Halo 3, the Chief's : poses are so great. You actually feel what he feels without seeing any : sort of face at all; it's all in his body. Good points and discussion, but I wanted to come back to the parts snipped above. I would say that with excellent actors and good direction, one should be able to expect very good posing/timing/expression from mocap. However (as far as I'm aware), there is still a significant limitation on how many points can be simultaneously tracked for mocap -- so I can imagine even the best raw mocap work does look a bit... well, raw -- so post-work/manual tweaks from an animator are certainly still necessary. But I think mocap of a talented actor with good, clear direction could quite clearly and effectively communicate the Miranda or Chief scenes you referenced.

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Thank You from Bungie Animators	Ibeechu	10/19/10 9:27 p.m.
cool *NM*	Hawaiian Pig	10/19/10 9:30 p.m.
That's awesome, man! *NM*	GrimBrother One	10/19/10 9:30 p.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Asian Inferno	10/19/10 9:32 p.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Ibeechu	10/20/10 1:44 a.m.
^ This post owns *NM*	Hawaiian Pig	10/20/10 2:16 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Wayward Spleen™	10/20/10 7:30 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Wildcard Tim	10/20/10 8:47 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	tln	10/20/10 9:00 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Ibeechu	10/20/10 2:18 p.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	tln	10/20/10 4:05 p.m.
Weird question inbound	topleybird	10/20/10 10:05 a.m.
Re: Weird question inbound	Ibeechu	10/20/10 1:59 p.m.
Re: Weird question inbound	Cody Miller	10/20/10 2:04 p.m.
Re: Weird question inbound	Wayward Spleen™	10/20/10 3:16 p.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	mnemesis	10/20/10 11:04 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	kapowaz	10/20/10 11:08 a.m.
Re: Thank You from Bungie Animators	Kermit	10/20/10 2:26 p.m.
Excellend post. Now I want to buy Halo 3 again. *NM*	Cullen	10/20/10 11:17 a.m.