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Re: That video is still epic
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 5/28/09 5:30 p.m.

In Response To: Re: That video is still epic (FyreWulff)


: I made the video in response to this.. how is it better? We never got to play
: it, so we don't know how 'fun' it was. It's been stated that it was a
: sandbox level put together to show the ideas they had for Halo 2, but it
: was not intended to be in the final game (it's on the Halo 2 LE DVD)

: The issue I have with it, is if the final Halo 2 had this level, it would
: have gotten the name New Scriptbasa, because it's heavily scripted. Who
: ever was playing this level knew when to stop, when to hang around, etc
: for certain events. What happens if we ran forward as the strike is being
: called in? How many people would actually wait for the hog to run over the
: jackals, and just grenade them as they're coming out of the rubble? How
: many would intentionally drive towards the Brute and let him jack the hog?
: The scripting setup and everything constantly pushes the player forwards,
: because that makes for an attractive trailer/demo video with minimal
: downtime.

: I imagine the actual gameplay of this level was actually -not- what many
: people think Halo is about, which is messing around in a sandbox and doing
: what you want to get to the end of the level. If you tried to break away
: at any point in this demo, the level starts to fall apart.

: I'm pretty sure the intention was to show that they had -something- running
: in real time, and some ideas they had, but never 'this is supposed to be
: Halo 2'. If they did, people should be LIVID over all the old Halo 1
: footage, because almost none of that got to the final game. Unfortunately
: people think these kind of demos say "this is what the final game
: will be like, exactly", and why we don't get to see demos like this
: anymore :( I would have loved to see an early prototype demo of Halo 3.

: But I guess all this is moot since apparently Halo 2 got started over some
: time after this demo, so either way it wasn't going to make it to final
: publish.

There was a Halo: Custom Edition map that used heavily the look and feel of the Mombasa presented in the E3 demo and it was a lot of fun to play, so if this level had been in Halo 2 (although with regular encounters instead of scripted sequences, it would have been a fun level to play through.

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Speaking of E3...FyreWulff 5/28/09 1:27 p.m.
     That video is still epicGilver 5/28/09 2:34 p.m.
           Re: That video is still epicThe BS Police 5/28/09 2:38 p.m.
                 Re: That video is still epicFyreWulff 5/28/09 3:24 p.m.
                       Re: That video is still epicThe BS Police 5/28/09 5:17 p.m.
                             Re: That video is still epicIbeechu 5/28/09 5:18 p.m.
                                   Re: That video is still epicThe BS Police 5/28/09 5:20 p.m.
                                         Re: That video is still epicIbeechu 5/28/09 5:21 p.m.
                                               Re: That video is still epicThe BS Police 5/28/09 5:27 p.m.
                                                     I'll look it up. *NM*Gravemind 5/28/09 5:49 p.m.
                                                           I'm watching the doc now. At the HBO lan part *NM*Ibeechu 5/28/09 5:55 p.m.
                                                                 K, here's a transcriptionIbeechu 5/28/09 6:12 p.m.
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                                                                             Re: Also.Bones153 5/28/09 8:15 p.m.
                                                                                   So it was technical issues? *NM*Gravemind 5/28/09 8:56 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Also.Miguel Chavez 5/28/09 11:52 p.m.
                       Re: That video is still epicStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/28/09 5:30 p.m.
           Re: That video is still epicButtskunk 5/28/09 11:07 p.m.
     you missed a few!Mirel 5/28/09 2:54 p.m.
           Re: you missed a few!FyreWulff 5/28/09 3:45 p.m.
     Re: Speaking of E3...The More Deluded 5/28/09 3:56 p.m.
     Re: Speaking of E3...Omega 5/28/09 9:12 p.m.
           Re: Speaking of E3...LoneRanger 2.5 5/28/09 9:38 p.m.
     The Sword Scene Still Gets Me Off.Morpheus 5/28/09 10:38 p.m.
           Re: The Sword Scene Still Gets Me Off.Free Weights 5/29/09 1:33 a.m.
     GIVE IT UP ALREADYJillybean 5/29/09 7:22 a.m.
           Re: GIVE IT UP ALREADYCody Miller 5/29/09 12:41 p.m.
                 Re: GIVE IT UP ALREADYGeneral Vagueness 5/29/09 2:14 p.m.
     Re: Speaking of E3... (UPDATED VIDEO)FyreWulff 5/29/09 3:21 p.m.
           Re: Speaking of E3... (UPDATED VIDEO)Louis Wu 5/29/09 3:25 p.m.
           Re: Speaking of E3... (UPDATED VIDEO)Psychophan7 5/31/09 2:29 a.m.
     Some comments.Gravemind 5/30/09 3:59 a.m.
           Re: Some comments.FyreWulff 5/30/09 11:46 a.m.
                 Re: Some comments.Gravemind 5/30/09 3:25 p.m.
                       Re: Some comments.Ze Moose 5/30/09 3:46 p.m.
                             Re: Some comments.Gravemind 5/30/09 5:38 p.m.
           The desperation was subtle, but thereJordan117 5/31/09 12:41 a.m.
                 Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereZe Moose 5/31/09 12:59 a.m.
                       Just thought of one more...Jordan117 5/31/09 1:26 a.m.
                             Woah. Hadn't noticed that before. *NM*Ze Moose 5/31/09 1:46 a.m.
                 Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereGravemind 5/31/09 1:44 a.m.
                       Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereLoneRanger 2.5 5/31/09 4:03 a.m.
                             Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereGravemind 5/31/09 6:26 a.m.
                                   Re: The desperation was subtle, but therePsychophan7 5/31/09 8:52 a.m.
                                         I blame Shiska! *NM*scarab 5/31/09 10:46 a.m.
                                         Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereGravemind 5/31/09 2:37 p.m.
                                               Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereLoneRanger 2.5 5/31/09 9:48 p.m.
                                                     Good point, the Terminals were brilliant *NM*Ze Moose 5/31/09 11:37 p.m.
                 Re: The desperation was subtle, but thereGeneral Vagueness 5/31/09 11:01 a.m.
     Question ....serpx 5/30/09 4:36 p.m.



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