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Re: Where I got Chief/Cortana = Didact/Librarian
Posted By: Ze MooseDate: 4/7/09 12:44 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Where I got Chief/Cortana = Didact/Librarian (Neloms)


: The only thing that still makes me a BIT sceptical about the whole idea is
: that Guilty Spark calls the chief "reclaimer". Why wouldn't he
: call him Didact instead? If they can give a reasonable explanation for
: that in the next book, game, etc. then I would be very pleased with the
: story being continued in this way.

Well we already know that AI rampancy is part of the Halo universe. Is it possible for an AI to become senile? In which case, the Reclaimer/Didact thing could be explained by a case of mistaken identity.

If we assume that the Master Chief and Cortana are Didact/Librarian, then GS doesn't recognize MC as Didact (or the Librarian) right away, but does recognize him once they are in the context of the control room ready to fire Halo. And if the MC and Cortana aren't Didact/Librarian, then GS originally recognizes the MC for who he is, a stranger who nonetheless fits the description of "Reclaimer", and then later in the context of the control room mistakes the MC for someone else. My medical terminology isn't exactly up to snuff, but maybe one could say that GS's memory of a person from the past is being projected onto the MC. In either case if GS can be considered effectively "senile", then he wouldn't necessarily notice that in his mind the MC's identity has changed. (I consider the latter situation to be the more likely, but not the only possibility.)

Some other things to consider:
1) GS doesn't recognize Cortana at all. Maybe they never met in GS's past (Cortana's future), but if Cortana is the Librarian I think this is unlikely.
2) In order for the MC to play the part of a Forerunner he would have to look like one, wouldn't he?
3) If this is a case of mistaken identity, then it appears it only happens once. At any other time in any other game, any human inside of a control room or out is only ever referred to by GS as "Reclaimer".

Personally I think that if there is a MC/Cortana/Librarian/Didact connection it is a metaphorical one. Maybe they're connected through the Monomyth, and the MC and Didact can be considered "Campbellian heroes"? The ending of Halo 3, particularly the line "Wake me, when you need me." seemed to me to be a direct reference to the idea of a hero that will rise again at the time of greatest need, in which case perhaps MC and Didact are two "incarnations" of this hero.

Notable examples of this idea of a hero that will rise again appear in both the Arthurian Legend and in the Bible. The MC, Didact, King Arthur, and Jesus all at the end of their "quest" enter this sort-of-death-sort-of-perpetual-state-of-retirement. I'm almost positive that there is a name for this type of hero but I can't think what it is. Anyone want to remind me?


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