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Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?
Posted By: Bry <bmulheran@gmail.com>Date: 2/8/09 7:57 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists? (Champ H)


: drastic times call for drastic measures. But really there is no thing as
: someone or something that is purely good. Running a nation is extremely
: hard, especially to keep everyone somewhat pleased so theres no huge
: revolts. Running a galaxy... must be astronomically difficult

That's exactly the point really.
I feel however that most people don't come to that kind of conclusion and prefer the idea of black and white simplicity over countless shades of uncertain grey.

Both the Insurrectionists and the UNSC stood for high ideals.
Even the Covenant did in theory. Multiple alien species united towards a common goal.
You could even draw a parallel between the UNSC and the Covenant.

The UNSC, or shall we say Earth, depended upon the colonies which was why independence was deemed out of the question. Martial law and brute force was deemed a viable way of denying them said independence and Earth would always be at the top of the pecking order.
Likewise the higher castes in the Covenant found themselves depending on the lower castes. Be it the Prophets depending upon the Sangheili or both of them depending upon the Kig-Yar and Unggoy.
The dependence being such for both that oppression is a viable means of ensuring co-operation.

That's a long winded way of saying the Covenant had its Grunt rebellion much like the UNSC had its Insurrection. In both cases the little man is exploited. They know it and not all of them are exactly happy about it. And who can blame them really?
Our own human history is already littered with similar examples.

So they may have high ideals, but when it comes to actually realising them, things are often not so positive, especially from a moral stand point.
And unfortunately, that's just reality on so many levels.
All of them are capable of very dark and unjustifiable procedures and actions.


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Harvest... a planet full of socialists?UNSC_Trooper 2/7/09 4:58 p.m.
     Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Pete Cooper 2/7/09 5:30 p.m.
           Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?UNSC_Trooper 2/8/09 7:45 a.m.
                 Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Pete Cooper 2/8/09 8:41 a.m.
     Dirty handsJillybean 2/7/09 5:33 p.m.
     Here's an easy way to tell...stan 2/7/09 5:47 p.m.
           God damn Commies!J23 2/7/09 6:13 p.m.
                 Re: God damn Commies!BlueNinja 2/7/09 6:30 p.m.
                       Re: God damn Commies!J23 2/7/09 8:31 p.m.
                             DEAD BEFORE REDBlueNinja 2/8/09 2:45 a.m.
     Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Hawaiian Pig 2/7/09 6:38 p.m.
           Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?J23 2/7/09 8:34 p.m.
                 Sir, have you no decency? :P *NM*SonofMacPhisto 2/7/09 9:43 p.m.
     Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?InnerRayg 2/7/09 7:53 p.m.
           Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?General Vagueness 2/7/09 11:48 p.m.
                 Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?InnerRayg 2/8/09 1:11 a.m.
                       Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Bry 2/8/09 6:45 a.m.
                             Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Jillybean 2/8/09 7:03 a.m.
                                   Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Sep7imus [subnova] 2/8/09 8:40 a.m.
                                         Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Jillybean 2/8/09 1:57 p.m.
                             Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?InnerRayg 2/8/09 3:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Champ H 2/8/09 6:16 p.m.
                                         Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Bry 2/8/09 7:57 p.m.
                                               Moral of the story?InnerRayg 2/8/09 8:37 p.m.
                                                     Haha!UNSC_Trooper 2/9/09 1:24 a.m.
                                                     The Flood are communists?Jillybean 2/9/09 6:11 a.m.
                                                     Re: Moral of the story?Hunt3r 2/9/09 6:36 a.m.
     Re: Harvest... a planet full of socialists?Leviathan 2/7/09 8:01 p.m.
           theyre on the multiplayer map provided *NM*nomis78 2/7/09 8:56 p.m.
                 Thanks, I guess I should try that part out... *NM*Leviathan 2/7/09 11:06 p.m.



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